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LuftWolf 01-26-06 01:09 AM

They do explode on the Nixie in the mod. :)

Amizaur was able to edit the Torphoming doctrine so that it can distinguish between launched CM's and the Nixie. :up:

Kazuaki Shimazaki II 01-26-06 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LuftWolf
They do explode on the Nixie in the mod. :)

If so, it makes perfect sense he'd have to reel it in and put a new decoy on the string. Can we try to extend the Nixie out only a LITTLE, so as to save some time on this regard?

Scion 01-26-06 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II
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Originally Posted by LuftWolf
They do explode on the Nixie in the mod. :)

If so, it makes perfect sense he'd have to reel it in and put a new decoy on the string. Can we try to extend the Nixie out only a LITTLE, so as to save some time on this regard?

But if the nixie is on a shot string the explosion will be closer to OS, increasing the liklihood of damage.


In other thoughts... shouldnt the TA be cut when a torp hits the Nixie? Thats a big bloody explosion near a cable...

Kazuaki Shimazaki II 01-26-06 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Scion
But if the nixie is on a shot string the explosion will be closer to OS, increasing the liklihood of damage.

If there are say 2 torps coming in, I'd prefer 10% damage from each than 1 hitting - against a 4000ton frigate, that hit would be the end of me.

SeaQueen 01-26-06 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LuftWolf
If the Nixie makes a torpedo explode on it... then don't you think it would then be damaged or possibly completely blown away?

Maybe. The catch is that the torpedo need not actually explode on the Nixie. In fact, most probably it won't. Most torpedos have some kind of proximity fuse so that they explode some distance underneath their target. So then it comes down to how likely is the Nixie to be damaged, given that the torpedo exploded distance r away times how likely the torpedo will explode distance r away. That's a lot harder question to answer.

I'm always cautious about damage modelling and saying, "X would happen if..." It's frequently very difficult to say that sort of thing about damage. I mean... really... how do you intelligently model the effects of a massive shockwave, fire and fragmentation on a million different interelated components, under all conditions, some of which are more fragile than others. You really can't. Damage is very squishy and always will be.

Zerogreat 01-26-06 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaQueen
I think they're trying to simulate the torpedo hitting the Nixie and having to be replaced.

Yes, i though about this too, it makes perfect sense, but i didnt saw it mentioned anywhere thats why im surprised to find this out :)

MuscleBob.Buffpants 01-26-06 09:58 PM

Nixie is very small - about a metre long. I doubt whether a torpedo would explode when it was near a Nixie as a magnetic sensor possibly wouldn't detect it. Nixie may be able to generate sufficient magnetic field to defeat a torpedo, but I never recall having to take precautions around a Nixie (no wearing watches etc) that you need to take around ASW torpedoes (the mag prox sensor will destroy a watch).

Why does it take so long to stream a new Nixie? On my old ship, there were two Nixies stowed aft, ready to be deployed if there was a sub in the area.

MaHuJa 01-28-06 04:38 PM

One detail worth mentioning - in my tests the nixie has only really been effective against torps coming from straight astern; 180 relative +- 5 to 10 degrees. Other than that they seem to always miss it - and turn back around in time to smack me.

Other than that, I'm pretty sure the nixie has taken two or more torps in a row for me without retracting/restreaming - though I wouldn't take an oath on it.


On another note, I'm already hating these guessing games... I'd really like for someone who knows (someone made it, after all) to explain to us how it works.

Takeda Shingen 01-28-06 04:46 PM

No problems with my Nixie. I have never had to use it consecutively, however.


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