That is true. There was really nothing wrong with the melody. Germany kept it's anthem after WWII, but simply changed some lyrics.s Of course, many of those changes were to changes made by the party in the 30's.

Nice video. :up: Why the Chinese characters? Was this from Chinese TV or somthing?

Sea Demon

i have no idea
i've just found it in internet and decided to share it with u since i know u all crazy about anything that swims ... lol

that we are and especialy about that with those fine looking ships :up:

I'd agree with that. The clip would have been much better, however, had someone left the original DiVX compression as good enough and not attempted another compression to WMA. The artifacts were awful.

While we are talking about the Russian Navy...

I didn't want to necromance that thread, but I'm genuinely interested, and this is the only other vaguely on topic thread I could find that's reasonably recent, so...

1) What's so messed up about the classification? "Large Antisubmarine Ship (Korabl)" is a perfectly good description for the Udaloy. As is the Krivak's classification, a "Patrol Ship" - and it is! What's wrong with them :-?
2) Up until now, I could have sworn that both the Soveremenny and Udaloy were destroyers in the West, and that they had completely different designations in the Russian Navy...

Wow. I feel seasick just watching it. :|\ :|\

sovremmeny is a destroyer east and west classfied
udaloy is a frigate (pollitical reasons) however is a destroyer in the west but both sovremmeny and udaloy are as large if not larger than ticonderoga cruisers also making them eligable for cruiser designation.

kirvack is a large anti sub patrol ship yes russian designation but in the west its the size of the perry frigate

reason for such designations threw out the entire navy is too keep the big ships, its more pollitical than anything.

if you think thats bad try the submarines

Did u managed btw to identify all these ships.
I recognised,Kirov,Kuznetcov,Moscow( i think)....
Didnt have time to look for details though.. :doh:

gunna have to remind me or send me an email blairshawatbtopenworld.com

replace at with @

What? Tico weighs nearly 10000 tons loaded and even the Burke just under 9500. Even the Spruances are heavier and longer at over 9000t each and over 170m long. The two Russkies both weigh in under 9000t and under 165m long.

Sovermenny is a eskadrenny minonsets. Does the word "Frigate" even exist in Russian?

He said "Patrol Ship". Nothing wrong I can see :D

Didn't the BPK, SKR, TAKR ... etc designations originate from the Soviet era?

I've heard of two somewhat divergent sets.

OK, I've heard of PLA, which just means "Submarine, Atomic" (nothing wrong with that - it is just SSN in Russian). From what I can see, these tend to have Captains of the 2nd rank.

I've heard of APK1R, "Atomic Submarine/Submerged? Cruiser, 1st Rank" for the Oscar. Nothing wrong with this. "Cruiser" seems to be used for larger Russian warships (Kirov, Slava...). OK, so this is an atomic submarine, but it is distinguished from the others, because it is a 1st Rank Cruiser, rather than a 2nd Ranked vessel. Right, got that.

The Oscar is/was also apparently a group in an alternate designation, PLARK (Submarine Atomic - Rocket Ballistic, almost exactly SSGN). My guess is that this is a wider designation, which also included (in Soviet days) such subs as the Charlie, which is too light to qualify as a first-ranked vessel. Certainly the description is descriptive enough.

I've heard of RPKSN "Rocket Submarine Cruiser Strategic". OK, it is a Rocket bearing Submarine Cruiser (big, first rank) of the Strategic level.

These also fall into the alternate "PLARB" designation, which is even clearer (Submarine, Atomic - Rocket Ballistic, almost the same as SSBN). Again, I think this has something to do with the older (Yankee) ballistic submarines in Soviet days being too light to qualify for first-rank. But all the newer ones that are left these days are heavy enough.

I think I could see Sovremenny and Slava, too.

I don't know about some of the ship's names but the classes where Kuznetsov (the only one I'm sure about the name since there is only one...), Kirov, Slava, Boris Chilkin, Sovermenny (the ship at the end), unknown small-ish ship might be a Corvette or support ship (upper left at the start).

The sea just makes them all look like models out there. Forget sub-hunting...negotiate a peace and find dry land, pronto!

Looking at the video I saw the following -

Boris Chilkin AOR
Kuznetsov CVGH - Admiral Kuznetsov
Kirov CGN - Petr Veliky
Slava CG - Marshal Ustinov
Sovremenny DDG - Admiral Ushakov
The small ship at the beginning looks like a large ocean going tug, which would not be uncommon for the Russians to have with them if they had a battlegroup go out. Can't be too sure who may break down while they are underway.

the song is very affecting