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stevo33 12-27-05 03:55 PM

Oh dear, that doesn't sound like much fun. I guess you'll have to roll back the drivers. You might want to use Driver Cleaner Pro. That will help get rid of every trace of the problematic drivers.

http://www.drivercleaner.net/

You know Nvidia used to be at the top of their game, seems like they dropped the ball somewhat in the last couple of years, and now ATI are the leaders. Maybe I'm wrong about that, I've not really been following the tech in the last couple of years, just started to again more recently, and that's how it's looking from here. In fact I am starting to think that my next card should be ATI.

jbt308 01-13-06 11:36 AM

Being a long time ATI fan, I bought a XT800 for my latest PC, and promptly returned it, as its performance was quite subpar. Wife let me have an early Christmas and I got the 7800GT, first nVidia card in like 5 years. So far, all the issues that I had with my prior ATI cards have disappeared, however, now I'm running into the nVidia problems associated with SH3.

My 9700pro ran SH3 great, when it wasn't crashing. Looked awesome. Now I've got some of the glitches that many of you talk about. Some went away with the newest nVidia drivers, but some are still there. Most irritating of all is the sidebar menu changing from hi-res to low-res depending on what station I'm at. Kinda disappointing, but what're you gonna do. At least the games stopped crashing.

In the end, I think it's 6:1/Half-dozen to the other. ATI, in my experience, has had fairly reliable drivers released on a pretty strict schedule. However, they've seemed to be pretty finicky gaming wise. Sometimes they work flawlessly, other times, not so much. Like a diva actress or an Italian sportscar.

nVidia, from what I've seen/read about, seems to rely on brute strenght of the card, but their drivers are like frickin mooch brother-in-laws, you never know when they're gonna work.

DMarkwick 01-13-06 06:18 PM

As a result of feedback from this forum I installed 81.95 drivers, and my minor issue cleared up. It also cleared up a problem I had in Operation Flashpoint, which was nice :)

6800GT

elite_hunter_sh3 01-13-06 09:06 PM

i have the 7800 gt and it runs perfect on 1024 x 768 8xaa 16 af i could hav went for the gtx buts it just a waste of money extra 300 just for a 10-20% performance increase? kind of adif you ask me but o well if u have it u have it and if u do have it then youwont have to buy another video card for another 2-3 yrs which is good


my comp specs

AMD Athlon 64 3700+
Bfg geforce 7800 gt
Asus A8V-E SE
300 Maxtor hdd
dvdrom , dvd burner
antec p160 w super mid tower
generic 2 gb ram pc3200

stevo33 01-14-06 01:21 PM

After installing the very latest drivers. Those being the beta drivers 82.12 I now have no sun at all! It used to be that if I turned off the bloom effect and had no AA turned on, that I would get a nice sun glare. Now I have updated the drivers I don’t even get that.

I have never really had any major problems with my card until now. I've just gotten used to it really, and the problems don’t mess with my gaming experience to much. It just bugs me in the back of my mind knowing that there are these glitches that I just can't sort out! And apparently neither can Nvidia!

If you have an Nvidia card, new or old, give us a report on how it runs with SH3.

Thanks

Steve

sik1977 01-14-06 07:07 PM

This is what I wrote in another topic, alongwith a picture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sik1977
I have 7800GTX OC. 4xAA, 16XAF, running game at 1280x1024 resolution wiuth dx9fix. No problems, here's a pic (with 81.95 drivers, now using 82.12 - The sub is a hi resolution model made by FUBAR - the Crescent is from the Hi REZ MOON Mod).

http://www.thefreeimagehosting.com/U...ub2-Edited.jpg


Also had Mobility Radeon 9700 in my precious Laptop which i used to play SH3, no problems there either ofcourse, but the higher graphics offered (AA & AF with higher reloution) by 7800 GTX make this game truely awesome to look at.


stevo33 01-14-06 08:08 PM

Well the image is expired but you're not the first to report that on a 7800 it runs just fine. Although I've heard of people still having problems with those cards too.

In general it seems the newer cards have less problems than say a card thats just a little older, like my FX55.

sik1977 01-14-06 08:56 PM

The image is loading fine for me, not sure why you are saying its expired (uploaded yesterday anyway, and loading in bpth threads its posted).

Its a lot to do with different setups ofcourse, and an Fx5500 is a completely different card from a 7800GTX. The latest drivers are all optimized for the seven series, not even so much for the 6 series and perhaps you can forget about the 5 series. Nvidia never had things right with the Fx series anyway, the nv30 (codename for 5 series) was quite a troublesome period for nVidia, and they only really managed to resolve all their issue with the launch of the nv40 (6 series).

Maybe you can manage an upgrade in the near future. If you have an AGP card, the new 6800GS has been getting great reviews, or the X800GTO from ATI. Both and basically recycled top of the line cards of previous generation, but would run SH3 on max settings without issue.

kholemann 01-17-06 05:02 PM

ATI AIW 9800 8xAGP
 
My PC runs SH3 just fine. P4 3.2 with HT, 1GB RAM, ATI 9800 AIW...

Knotical 01-18-06 10:36 PM

Ever since the 80+ series drivers came out I have working sunglare with AA enabled. I am now running 81.98 with no problems on my BFG 6800 Ultra. I am running the -SH3 XPSP2 Res Fix for 1.4b- at 1280 x 960 Res, and the last time I removed this and went back to the default 1024x768, I lost the sunglare. If you have the latest drivers and still no sun-glare I would suggest downloading the Res Fix and increasing the resolution.

Cpt.Thorne 01-19-06 01:04 AM

GeForce Nvidia 6600 never had a problem with the sun.

McBeck 01-19-06 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbt308
Being a long time ATI fan, I bought a XT800 for my latest PC, and promptly returned it, as its performance was quite subpar. Wife let me have an early Christmas and I got the 7800GT, first nVidia card in like 5 years. So far, all the issues that I had with my prior ATI cards have disappeared, however, now I'm running into the nVidia problems associated with SH3.

My 9700pro ran SH3 great, when it wasn't crashing. Looked awesome. Now I've got some of the glitches that many of you talk about. Some went away with the newest nVidia drivers, but some are still there. Most irritating of all is the sidebar menu changing from hi-res to low-res depending on what station I'm at. Kinda disappointing, but what're you gonna do. At least the games stopped crashing.

In the end, I think it's 6:1/Half-dozen to the other. ATI, in my experience, has had fairly reliable drivers released on a pretty strict schedule. However, they've seemed to be pretty finicky gaming wise. Sometimes they work flawlessly, other times, not so much. Like a diva actress or an Italian sportscar.

nVidia, from what I've seen/read about, seems to rely on brute strenght of the card, but their drivers are like frickin mooch brother-in-laws, you never know when they're gonna work.

I agree with you that ATI and Nvidia focuses on different things.
For Nvidia is mostly about the speed.
For ATI its about speed and image quality.
It has been tested with some people in regards to SH3 and SH3 should look better with a ATI card.
I just got a ATI X850 XT PE for the same price as a 6800 GT(I got a really good deal).
The ATI has a better/same performance, but for sure better image quality.


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