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Beery 11-28-05 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Panama Red
I have used your Red Baron II mods for years as well as your SH3 mods. When you said that you were going to be moving on to other games a few weeks ago, I was wondering what game had captured your interest. Pretty good movie for the time you have spend learning this new game.

Thanks.

This game really took me by surprise. It was kinda low on my radar because I'm not really into 'The Sims' type games. But with the movie-making element, this has to be one of the best games I've ever played.

The Avon Lady 11-28-05 08:59 AM

How about making a movie about how you made and released RUb 2? :D

CCIP 11-28-05 11:37 AM

I've heard of this game before, but I never was particularly interested in it until I saw this - it is rather neat, indeed.

And if it's anything like the Sims - I'm sure it's moddable enough for someone to eventually build a U-boat set. Then we'll have our Das Boot :88)

I'll definitely need to check it out sometime, thanks Beery :up:

(16 hours? That's also very impressive. It'd take me twice longer to make an SHIII movie of the same length, and it'd only be half as good)

Gizzmoe 11-28-05 02:39 PM

Moved to "General Topics".

kiwi_2005 11-28-05 05:53 PM

Hell, i didn't know this game could do what your doing, i read up about it in a review but never bothered to buy it cos it reminded me of those Sims games. Until now.

Camaero 11-28-05 06:00 PM

Well there is an aspect of the game where you run and manage your own Hollywood studio. You manage your actors, crew, lot, all kinds of things. That part was ok for awhile but thankfully you can by pass all of that and go straight to the movie making if you choose.

There is a pretty good sandbox mode on it if you hate that micro management stuff.

Then you can create your actors, shoot your movie using all sets available, use all costumes, and make your masterpiece!

PeriscopeDepth 11-28-05 11:19 PM

OT but...I don't own SHIII, but would you be the same Beery that modded the B-17 TM8th R&R file?

Just curious. :)

PD

Beery 11-29-05 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeriscopeDepth
OT but...I don't own SHIII, but would you be the same Beery that modded the B-17 TM8th R&R file?

Just curious. :)

PD

That is me. I've worked on a whole bunch of simulations and strategy games - even a couple of sports games. I've been modding for about 15 years. The first game I made a mod for was Red Baron 1, which was released in 1990.

Camaero 11-29-05 01:51 AM

Wow! I used that mod for B-17TM8th every time I installed the game. It really changed the game and bumped up the drama. In fact I think I will go play it until SHIII gets here!

You do good work.

werauchimmer 11-29-05 05:03 AM

I hate myself for this, but being an old "beckmesser" i can“t resist:

WW1 movie? Go fire your props department. The weapons are wrong in some cases. One of the germans wields what appears to be a H&K MP5. The uniforms are wrong for the germans, too....


;)

Beery 11-29-05 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by werauchimmer
WW1 movie? Go fire your props department. The weapons are wrong in some cases. One of the germans wields what appears to be a H&K MP5. The uniforms are wrong for the germans, too....

The game only allows certain props and certain uniforms. There are no WW1 Lee-Enfields, even the British uniforms are wrong, and I had to improvise for some of the details.

Nothing changes it seems. As usual I'm being criticised for flaws in the standard game. I studied WWI for ten years, so I'm well aware of ALL the film's anachronisms, but I can only use the tools I'm given.

TteFAboB 11-29-05 12:17 PM

Beery you are always being usefull, this time you helped convince me not to buy this P.O.S..

Thanks! :up:

Yes, it's all wrong, details were already mentioned so it's no use to repeat. When I was a kid I used to shoot war-movies, just like Geroge Lucas, and even we were more accurate than that, and we had to improvise all of it as we had no budget at all.

This movie feels empty to me, I see no emotion anywhere, the soldier doesn't feel hatred, neither do I, and why should he or I feel anything if there's nothing to feel? There's no tension, no drama, no fear, no excitement, no hate and no love, the movie is too short to show us a bond between the soldiers so if Mr. Bad Actor #1 says he's sad because Mr. Bad Actor #2 died in his arms we have to take his word for it, maybe his jokes were really so good that he pitties he'll never be able to listen to them again?

How about some artillery? Grenades? Flame-Throwers? Tanks? Bi-planes? Trenches? Forts? Collapsible scenarios? Bullets digging holes on the walls? There's none of that in-game? Only semi-auto Lee Enfields and Mp5's? Maybe it would've been best to leave war-movies out of the game.

None of this is your fault of course, those are the game limitations and nothing can be done about them, unless it's modable, I've never played the game so I don't know what you can or cannot do and how hard or easy it is to shoot this movie, so it would be unfair for me to judge your labor, I guess you've made a good job for a software that is more of a "game" rather than a truly "3d Movie Studio" or something along those lines (like the ancient Microsoft Movie Maker).

If there's room for modding in this game, I believe you'd be greatly needed in that department, for me, I'll just wait untill it reaches the bargain bin and buy it for 12.99$ to play for a few days untill all these limitations drive me out of it.

Beery 11-29-05 12:59 PM

Wow! If you feel that way about it, definitely don't buy it. I think you'd be missing out though.

It's not good to get caught up in nitpicking details. Some of the things you're criticising are decisions I made. If you don't empathise with the characters, that's because I chose to make the story very simple and a little detached. It has nothing to do with the limitations of the game.

Frenchie 11-29-05 06:12 PM

Aye, the mp5 was a little strange. :up: Still, did enjoy it, considering I'm at college studying filming and sound production I'm having second thoughts about projects for the coming year and possibilities. :smug: Brits based On the Durham Light Infantry or just a general light unit?

Frenchie

XabbaRus 11-29-05 07:25 PM

Very good and very interesting. with a game like this that has scope for a lot more I'd have thought that there would be pepople making new bits and bobs to add to sets and stuff.

I'd like to try it but am worried that I'd be limited by sets and stuff. I'd love to make a Hunt For Red October type thing.


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