I should have checked this for you earlier.

The longest ranged missile on the SU-24 for ASM's is the AS-14 with a max range of just under 8000m.

I recommend that all mission designers download Ludger's editor from www.subguru.com and learn how to use it. ;)

Just about all of these questions can be answered by checking the weapon parameters.

Now I feel better!

So may be we should try with a Mirage F-1 for exemple.
Or an SU-27/33 from China

They should have longer range missiles!!!

Doh! 8km totally disagrees with what's published in the USNI Reference!

According to the USNI Reference they DO!

Don't ever trust the USNI. :-j

The reference contradicts itself, the database, and many third party sources.

Incidentially, the database value of 8000m for the AS-14 Kedge is in accordance with fas.org and the USNI Reference value of 18nm is quite off.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/m.../row/as-14.htm

Interesting that SCS uses the USNI Reference data as a reason they can't change any number of things in the database. :hmm:

I'm not sure I believe the USNI number or the FAS number. I'll look it up tomorrow in Janes and check that. They DO design these missiles to be effective, ya know? :-)

All publicly available sources report 8-10km.

I'd be interested to see what a couple of thousands of dollars worth of defense intelligence subscription access will get you. So let me know. :)

I'm as curious as you are. I use globalsecurity.org and fas.org frequently at work, when I just want to do something quick, but I've also learned not to trust it with my life either.

They're all probably quoting each other. It's as if we all got in a circle, one of us told the person in front of us the range was 8-10km, and then that person told the next person, etc. Then, when it got back to the first person he said, "See! I'm right! That guy said it was 8-10km too!"

The thing is, I'm wondering where the heck they got 8-10km anyhow, because really the range of a missile can vary considerably based on launch speed, altitude, etc.

The other thing I'm wondering is, if that IS in fact a good unclass range estimate, nobody in their right mind would plan stake the defense of their nation on a missile they'll never get close enough to use. Clearly, other loadouts are likely for the ASuW mission. So, the next thing is to find out what other anti-ship cruise missiles the SU-24 is capable of carrying according to unclass sources.

EDIT:

AH HA! The SU-24 can carry the AS-11 super-sonic cruise missile which according to FAS has a range of 120km. Too bad it's not modelled. *growl*

They can carry the AS-11 'Kilter' ASM.

also they can carry
AS-7 'Kerry'
AS-10 'Karen'
AS-9 'Kyle'
AS-11 'Kilter'
AS-17 'Krypton'
AS-13 'Kingbolt'

I plan on doing a reworking of aircraft loadouts and a few other non-submarine, non-sensor related issues for LWAMI 3.01.

Sorry for not doing it earlier, but we have been up to our ears in "other" issues. Stay tuned, we'll have it! :up:

To ensure a mission-critical kill for an airstrike I´ve used "transit" for 1 or 2 aircraft, and then after a pass the "add explosion" and "remove platform".

But there are, indeed, some problems with aircraft. Like TLAM Strike said, SU-24 has a wide variety of weapons. Also, some aircraft (British Harrier, for instance) seem to fall off the sky unless given very high speeds etc. (This may have been fixed in the latest patch, I'm not sure.)

Yes TLAM is right about the possible loadouts of the SU-24.

Now are those modeled in the game?

Hope so

Have to check

I will have a ``definite answer for the `` AS-14 range

Yes TLAM is right about the possible loadouts of the SU-24.

Now are those modeled in the game?

Hope so

Have to check

I will have a ``definite answer for the `` AS-14 range

Yes TLAM is right about the possible loadouts of the SU-24.

Now are those modeled in the game?

Hope so

Have to check

I will have a ``definite answer for the `` AS-14 range