Already done and still no improvement. :shifty:

Ok youve got Direct X 9.0c ?
Run dxdiag and knock-off hardware assistance. Check for problems.

Before entering game run Enditall make sure you have cut your Firewall, Anti-Virus prog. and GoBack (if there)
Go into Control Panel - game Controllers- make sure the Logitechis the selected controller and status ''OK'' Next properties and set up the buttons etc. In game set up the controller.

Still in the mire ?
The only other thing I can think of is to re-install the Logitech software again but only after uninstalling
and checking via Regedit that you have no Logitech entries. I seem to remember sepeaate entries for the
stick and its 'application'** control. Then install the update/patch.

Dont install the extra 'application'** software (**Title escapes me) - just the basic set-up.

If this doesnt do the trick - Xmas is comeing !!

Very important questions... how old is the stick? Does anyone who uses it beat the crap outta it?

It's most likely that the stick is simply worn out. The POTS start to wear and will never be set to normal again. Basically the stick will be very muddled in the center region. The only solution is to...

1) replace the POTS in the joystick. (I don't even think you can do that to a logitech)

2) replace the stick

3) increase the dead zone/null zone of the stick significantly.

4) along with "3" decrease the stick senseitivity in the center area.

I cannot see how updated drivers will solve issues when it is a mechanical issue...

Hell- Not ''when'' but if it is a mechanical issue.

1.I still own a very old serviceable MS Sidewinder which played up many times after installing new flight sims.
Software and null zone adjustments were 100% effective.

2. Ditto Logitech.

3. Fault symptoms exhibited with both - either a pull to one side , a wander or completely dead.

Thanks Hellcat and Ballman. I will try these tips when I will be at home.

Getting a similar CH setup as the Cougar (whih would mean a Fighterstick and a Pro Throttle), the price will be quite similar, I've even seen the Cougar being sold for a bit less. Then you'd have to complete the system with pedals (for F-16 it's not so critical as rudder control isn't as important as in many other sims).

However, a CH stick can be expected to be more reliable than a standard Cougar (there are some production issues in many Cougars, and some parts wear out quickly). There are some hardware updates to change some of the internal parts of a Cougar (including one that uses force sensors instead of moving parts), but that would double the price.


The MS Sidewinder sticks are reasonable if you don't use much buttons. Some models were very reliable. Drawback: they aren't made anymore, so you'll probably have to find second hand devices.