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Molon Labe 09-26-05 03:05 PM

How do we know how much effectiveness we lose if we don't stream it all the way?

SeaQueen 09-26-05 03:21 PM

Re: Question about towed arrays
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OKO
Seequeen, you are talking about detection here.
But not about TMA.
You won't do any TMA this way, except if you let the magic AC TMA working of course.

That's true.

My thinking has always been that once you have an initial detection, then you can begin doing what you need to in order to get a good firing solution. So, once I see a target with my tail that might be hostile, I start changing course, speed, playing with my sensors.. whatever. Localizing a target is a separate process in my mind.

If you can maximize your detection range then you've bought yourself time to prosecute the target.

OKO 09-26-05 03:40 PM

Re: Question about towed arrays
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaQueen
If you can maximize your detection range then you've bought yourself time to prosecute the target.

You are absolutly right here ...
And in this case, your description is very nice to find new contacts.
But as soon as you get it, you must use TMA procedure, this mean putting your TA in the best conditions to record.

And we can say now, with MOD 2.01, passive arrays are not the best way to find human subs, just because detection range are way shorter than with stock.
That's why active is now definitly the best tool to hunt subs (but not to stay stealth of course .........)
And even on active, the sonar need now really a HUGE amount of work : you hear the target (ping return), but you need to find it because you can't see it.
it's a very interesting work now at active
active on subs and on OHP also, where single beam become essential to accelerate the time needed to find the sub contact.
Active operator need a REAL training now to be efficient.

For the good of DW !

LuftWolf 09-26-05 04:36 PM

You can go active against me if you'd like OKO, especially if I'm driving an Akula. ;)

darksythe 09-26-05 10:38 PM

@lw hehe i like the sound of that!

Kapitan 09-27-05 01:33 AM

well the akulas towed array is very unique its made of a rubbery material and is about 1/4 inch thick but its also fragile hit the floor or go to fast you loose it

all akula bar gepard trail Skat-3M towed sonar array housed in the pods on top of the rudder

the gepard trails a newer Skat 5C some claim but others say diffrent towed arrays im just figuring it out at the moment

XabbaRus 09-27-05 08:30 AM

From what I understand the pod doesn't house the array but just the runner wheel that the array runs over before it exits the pod.

The array itself is stored in the hull somewhere.

The reason being was that Russian Towed arrays were quite thick and the covering would get brittle and break and therefore required a resonably large radius to run over so it could payout without snapping.


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