:) Well respect Sea Demon - its quite a big task to master the FFG. :cool:

I have converted from SW to Akula and had many rewarding trips in the MH60 but I keep saving the FFG for ' a rainy day ' :hmm:

Did you guys know that:

The OHP FFG is as quiet or quieter in database terms as: Trafalgar, Victor III, Oscar (louder than OHP), Han (louder), Song (louder), Foxtrot (louder), Rubis (louder), Type 206, Type 209, Hangor, Hai Lung, Hairushio, Xia (louder), Ming, Santa Cruz, and Hashmat submarines.

This is probably curved for speed, so a frigate would typically be going faster than any of these subs, so its still relative.

I think that point is, that at any speed over something like 3 knots, OHP will cavitate, which makes it somewhat loud :hmm:

This design tactic is quite similar to the 65's. As it's got enabled and locked on, it acquires the target holding at 45knots upon detonation during its terminal trip.

Have you also noticed the SS-N-15 Strfish. Quite a terrible Sub Vs Sub ASW weaponry. It is launched at shallow depth, engaging at subsonic speed towards target and blast off its warhead upon 1 nm separation. It's like a Sukoi flying extremely low and drop it with a parachute. It enables a pretty goos stand-off range upon launch. I wonder if it can be fitted into any surface vessel apart from subs.

The Kirov class CGN has the larger verson the SS-N-16 rocket, its launched from its torpedo tubes. I've also read that the Project 1154 Neustrashimy class Frigate can carry eather SS-N-15 or 16 rockets. The new SS-N-29 ASROC can be fitted to surface ships. The Udaloy, Krivack I and II and Kara carry the SS-N-14 Silex ASW/ASuW missile.

The Silex is no joke. They fire them in groups of three every few minutes. :dead:

In Soviet Russia, 'overkill' is standard procedure :yep:

yep sure is

the new udaloy 3 has VLS systerm which is capible of firing a new type of ASW missile

The SS-N-29 or something totaly new? :hmm:

possibly the 29 but i dont know as of yet have to ask javier