U-571
Terrible actors, H. Keitel in his worst role, and a rockstar in his probable best role, still much too bad for any film :rotfl:
Completely concocted history (Engigma etc.) AND still serving the WW2 allied propaganda German-U-boats-kill-shipwrecked" bullsh*t.
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The Pearl Harbor (2001) Attack Scene Was good and accurate. RED DAWN alerted the USA to Communist Aggression, and that "Reagan Hysteria" won the Cold War..:)

Pearl Harbour? What an utter crock of sh*t!

That film is aweful. Who directed it? Who wrote it?

Laugh? I nearly shat...

You can tell its a crap war movie, cause girls like it more than blokes...

Never seen U-571, think I'll give it a wide birth.

Nope, sorry. You're wrong on two counts.

Communist aggression was known since the Korean War, and it hardly required a bad Patrick Swayze movie to sound the alarm. Red Dawn was only a hysterical and propogandist attempt at fearmongering and cashing in at the same time. Propoganda is propaganda.

A number of factors decided the Cold War. The Solidarity Movement in Poland, the instability of the Russian economy, the shortcomings of the Stalinist system, the Berlin Wall, and mutually assured destruction ensured the end of the cold war.

Hysteria never won any wars, so far as I can recall.

While I agree Red Dawn was just pure propaganda, Reagan pushed the Russians to the breaking point. He kept up the pressure on their economy, he made them decide between making food or keeping up with us in the arms race. Politics is my specialty, without Reagan's intervention the USSR would probably still be standing. Most of the people in the 80's were very apathetic towards the USSR, we didn't want to push them because we feared their push back. Reagan said f*ck that and made the USSR push itself more than it could sustain. Which obviously resulted in the collapse of the economy. Now if only Bush would follow Reagan's example and call Puttin a dictatorial Stalinist Russia may become a successful democracy.

Yes, Pearl Harbor is definately one of the worst war movies. I went there with my GF thinking I was going to watch a cool war movie (she wasn't too enthousiastic) and we came out of the theatre with me hating it and she thinking it wasn't that bad LOL :rotfl:
The action scenes were OK I guess but all the rest sucked really bad!
Also funny how nobody smokes in that movie... if you watch every other war movie they're usually smoking their lungs out, but I think this is made by Disney or something so I guess they didn't wanna set a bad example :roll:
Horrible movie... :nope:

Re: The Worst War Movies of All Time
 

Oh come on! Krasny Raccvet (Russian title) was brilliant. The Breakfast Club with Cuban paratroops, what more could anyone ask for in a war movie?

On a serious note, why wasn't 'Rambo; First Blood part 2' on that list? I mean, not only was it a horribly bad movie in its own right, but it has the added effect of tainting 'First Blood', which was actually a pretty good movie.

Regarding other comments related to politics, can we please avoid that? I don't even care what political persuasion players of this game ascribe to. In fact I'd prefer not to find out, because I'm sure that in most cases I won't like what I find.

While I agreed that Reagan's policies were calculated, and the USSR could not keep up with the economic strain, Reagan's policies were only a a catalyst. I would argue that the rot had set in a long time before Reagan came along - all the way back to Stalin and Kruschev, and Brezhnev's policies ensured that the USSR couldn't win the cold war.

I strongly doubt that the USSR would have lasted much more than another 20 years or so after 1989, with or without Reagan.

Yes but 20 years means it'd still be around now :D I know I wouldn't want to be living in fear of a nuclear holocaust. I'm glad we can agree sometimes people just can't see what I'm talking about. It's just back then some people were thinking about dropping trade barriers with the USSR which would've stimulated their economy which would've been disastrous. I'm a conservative freak, so I had to jump in there to defend the only true conservative president.

I disagree. The Russians were in no more hurry to die in a nuclear war than we were. From what I have read, we were in as much danger from the technology as we were from the Russians. There were a number of times when a war almost started from technical glitches at NORAD.

I also recall that Reagan and one of his cabinets were bleating on about the possibility of "winning" a nuclear war. One of his cronies said something about digging bomb shelters with a shovel and covering the hole with a door. It was insane.

I doubt that it would have even lasted 20 years. But that is a 'what if' which isn't a sustainable argument, and from what I have read I don't think that conservatives can take credit for Reagan winning the cold war. Even if the trade barriers were dropped, they didn't have anything that we wanted anyway. Vodka and Ladas. That's pretty much it.

So I disagree. Reagan did not single-handedly destroy the evil empire.

Sorry.

Read this article and think on it some more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev

BTW, I am as critical of Democrat Pres's as I am of Republicans.

You said it. There's also a little point no one dares utter: Who is the only nation to actually use atomic weapons against an enemy? Who feared who? Seems to me the Russians had every reason to fear us, our leaders here in the US had no qualms about dropping a few nukes on Japan just to end a war we'd already won so 'our boys could come home for Christmas'...

Not trying to stir a controversy...just trying to add to one. ;)

Oh, and on bad War movies, add the latest Star Wars flick to the list. ;)

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Dumber than dumb. And I'm a Kaye fan! :cry:

Who's that cutie next to him?

I walked out of 'Pearl Harbor' dumber for having seen that movie. Windtalkers... three letters... W. T. F?

I thought 'When Trumpets Fade' was pretty good though. While it was definantly a budget title, it did a good job of showing just what a waste of life the Hurtgen Forest campaign was. I liked the method they used to depict just how much a meatgrinder it was, with the protaganist being promoted simply by virtue of being the last man left alive and the terrible irony of the ending.

I'm pretty sure it's Dinah Shore.