i knew it was something alone those lines.

What's the deal? Is SCS going to make playable Alfas? When?

I think they will add modern platforms but not cold war submarines.
When and which platforms ? Thats the 100 million dollar question, in any case not less than 1 year in my humble opinion and as to what platforms they will add its all speculation.
Maybe they will add a surface soviet antagonist to the FFG but who knows ?

Waiddaminute... there will be NO new drivables? :stare:

Who said there will be no new drivables ?
SCS doesn't want an scu type mod for dw because they have stated that it is their intention to provide expansions in the form of new platforms for DW.
As to when, its a matter of speculation.

@ Goldorak: You said:
By this, did you mean that DWX will not contain playables, and that such work is to be left for SCS?

No, I said that players introducing new platforms such as what happened with the scu mod for sub command will not be allowed on dangerous waters.
The DWX mod will not let players take command of new platforms, it will focus itself on makling the game more realistic by tweaking the database and introducing more nice looking platforms (only from a cosmetic point of view).
But as far as the hacking of dll files are concerned its absolutely proihibited.
SCS are the only ones who will (at a later time) introduce new playable platforms in the form of expansion packs.

Bah! They want to release the playables for money?

This makes me laugh. They won't allow us to add our own playables? How will they prevent us?

I don't mean to insult anyone or anything like that, but I just find this funny.

Its not funny at all, this is the same kind of discussion going on the forums dedicated to Falcon4 Allied Force.
They (the legitimate owners of the game in question) can take whatever option is necessary to retain the integrity of the game.
Read the license, you can mod almost anything in dw except the dll.
Hack the dll and you are in for a pretty rough ride if you ask me.
Better to not cross this dangerous line.

Ps: Do you honestly think they will keep improving DW out of good will ?
Their business model is clear, put out DW which will act as a foundation to later platforms.
They get to develop new platforms and sell them, you as a client are entitled to buy or to not buy but you cant pretend to have everything for free at the expense of SCS.
If you don't agree, don't buy the future expansion packs.

I don't know about you guys, but I would be willing to pay for more drivable platforms.....Alfa, Foxtrot, Hotel ect :up:

As long as it is reasonable price. :hmm:

$5 a platform and id pay over that id call it extorsion

I would buy new platforms, hope they develop first of all more surface ships and air assets.
We already have too many submarines.

Oh please, and what more ?
This community (not all of it) has been absolutely spoiled by the scu mod for sc.
I'm seeing the same problems here as what is happening on the F4AF forums.
That community also comes from a similar experience, free mods including an fly all aircraft mod (albeit illegal) which took Falcon 4 to new heights.
Now that a legal company is resuming the project, they don't want the community to mod the exe file etc. because surprise surprise they want to be able to sell expansions packs of new airplanes to include in Falcon4 AF.

Just keep in mind that SCS will not allow modding/hacking of dll.
5$ for a new platform is laughable, not even payware mods cost so little, please look at the situation realistically.
A new platform (with its physics modelling etc...) would be absurd to cost the price of a full DW, but 30$ is acceptable.

Yes I think SCS should focus more on air and surface platforms, although some additional subs would be nice like the Trafalgar, Collins or Type 212 ETC to round out the Blue side's inventory (which is lacking in the sub department with only 2 vs. 6 and no non nucs).

I think,
Udaloy/Kirvak
Tu-142
Ka-28
NATO SSK
Would be reasonable at $5 a head with $5 or $10 for some behind the scenes stuff with the code and existing platforms. $30 +S&H I would pay. :yep:

oh please stuff that $30 a platform give over

the fs downloads are cheaper in fact they cost sqiddly dot (thats $0 to most people)

why cant we have the same ?