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Reece 12-21-24 05:16 AM

Of all times Christmas, the miserable turd should be executed, or sent to the Russian front!! :hmph::x:mad:

Catfish 12-21-24 07:51 AM

An anti-islamic AfD supporter.
Just when you think you have seen it all.

Skybird 12-21-24 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2937341)
An anti-islamic AfD supporter.
Just when you think you have seen it all.

This piece voices doubt on the reliability of that claim. Ignore the source that you will not like, focus on what it says. And especially take note that it is Hamed Abdel-Samad (whom I have often mentioned in recent years and whom I once met personally in a brief public meeting) also voicing doubts on the man's identity.

https://www-achgut-com.translate.goo..._x_tr_pto=wapp


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However, things sounded different for a German of Arab descent who has been widely known for many years as a profound critic of Islam and who can only move around in this country under police protection because of his criticism of Islam. Hamed Abdel-Samad, who is also an Achgut author, was in contact with Abdulmohsen and wrote on Facebook on Saturday :

" After the name of the Magdeburg attacker was revealed today, I found several old messages from him in my X-mailbox. In them, he asked me to stop supporting secular refugee aid and wanted to speak to me personally.
In his last message on November 21, he again asked me to distance myself from the secular refugee aid organization because he would soon do something that would make this organization the number one topic of conversation in the world. All screenshots of his messages are now in the hands of the police.

In my estimation, this man is either a deranged person or a mole.


Saudi agent?

It is conceivable that he could be a confused person. But a mole? Ali Utlu – himself an ex-Muslim, atheist, Achgut guest author and active critic of Islam from Cologne – also has his experiences with Abdulmohsen, which he briefly summarizes on X as follows :

"If the perpetrator is Taleb Al Abdulmohsen, then I blocked him months ago because I, like other critics of Islam, thought he was a Saudi agent who spied on renegade Saudis and ex-Muslims in Germany for the Saudi state. I'm shocked right now."

Shortly afterwards he confirms again:

"I didn't believe and still don't believe that he's an apostate. Everything he did was rather confused. He even attacked me until I blocked him because I didn't believe a word he said. I need to let it all sink in."

The assumption that Abdulmohsen could be a mole is also consistent with his verbal attack on the organization "Secular Refugee Aid," which was co-founded by Islam critic and Achgut guest author Mina Ahadi. In an English-language video distributed on X , he declares the renowned Secular Refugee Aid to be the "most corrupt refugee organization in the world" and says of Ahadi:

"She is the main founder of this organization. There was no need to create this organization. Because she is also the founder of the Central Council of Ex-Muslims in the same city. She did not need to create another organization. Unless we remember that these people themselves said that this organization deals mainly with female refugees from Saudi Arabia. So a special organization was created to (recruit) mainly female Saudi refugees to abuse them (...) So (Mina Ahadi) most likely created both organizations to destroy ex-Muslim activism."
It is known and I know from first hand witness account that such operatins are being run by Saudi secret police for sure. Comparable to operations by the Turks and Iranians.


On a sidenote, super-lefty socialist inteiror minister Faeser did not let the opportunity pass unused to be on the scene of the crime yesterday and then firing a barrage of propagandistic battlephrases that immediately make clear to evervbody how to correctly think about this unwelcomed, unpleasant event, calling the deed that of an Islamophobe, oh yes, this is one of the lefty migrant-importers most beloved phrases to demonize everbyody who does not agree with their full subjugation to Islam: you are an Islamophobe, obviously. Next Grandpa Steinmeier also soaped up the German public with his senile theatralic drivel, and then the brash uncle Olaf stepped up and shaved the Germans off with a clear edge. It was a good day until then, but then and after the Faeser reframing stunt I suffered another one of these unspeakable vomiting attacks thta nowadays haunt me so often.

I take this all personal, kind of, because many years ago I was engaged myself in assisting several Muslim apostates to get out and get their mental acts together when needing to get things sorted for themselves regarding that they woud need to separate from their families, parents. I know very well the personal conflicts and the pain real apostates must go through. I have seen some of these at arms length, over weeks and months. If what AdG writes turns out to be true, it would piss me big time.

Catfish 12-21-24 11:59 PM

Ah a conspiracy.
Just read what this Taleb wrote in the *a*social media before. AfD supporter and a Musk fan lol.
WTH should this stunt do or achieve for the Saudi government.

Skybird 12-22-24 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2937412)
Ah a conspiracy.
Just read what this Taleb wrote in the *a*social media before. AfD supporter and a Musk fan lol.
WTH should this stunt do or achieve for the Saudi government.

Hunting down apostates and shutting doors for them to escape, and luring them into their doom. Apostacy is under death penalty in Islam.

This was a real danger already 20+ years ago.

mapuc 12-22-24 02:07 PM

(Tried to translate this German article into English, without any luck)
Hopefully Skybird could do it ?

https://www.volksstimme.de/lokal/mag...olizei-3970908

Markus

Jimbuna 12-22-24 02:11 PM

https://www-volksstimme-de.translate...en&_x_tr_hl=en

mapuc 12-22-24 02:30 PM

Thank you Jim :Kaleun_Salute:

Made me sad when I read about these three person-Good they were arrested.

Markus

Skybird 12-22-24 05:53 PM

I guess the guy is indeed a delusional psychotic who is now being turned into a right-wing extremist with all the power of the media and the political “elite” because a.) it is politically opportune, and b.) it distracts from the failure of the security forces, because the first warnings that he has a bad temper were already given about ten years ago or more.



The market was actually completely cordoned off by bollards and concrete blocks, except for one spot where there was a tram stop and which was fixed as an emergency exit. Why the hell weren't there two police cars parked there, which could have simply driven aside if necessary...? Why was this gateway left wide open instead?

Shadowblade 12-22-24 06:49 PM

result of welcome culture in Germany



it was just matter of time when it will happen again, you cant protect all soft targets when you let killers in

Ostfriese 12-23-24 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowblade (Post 2937529)
result of welcome culture in Germany


it was just matter of time when it will happen again, you cant protect all soft targets when you let killers in


That happens if you only consume the most far-right media information. Literally nobody else comes to this conclusion, not even Germany's new nazi party AfD.
Congratulations, Shadowblade, you have just parroted bull****.

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To bolster the narrative Shadowblade so clumisly fell for, X has deleted all Twitter postings the perpetrator made before November 2024, to erase the evidence that show that the perpetrator was indeed up to his neck in far-right conspiracy theories, as well as quite a number of other wack ideas.

Skybird 12-23-24 05:35 AM

Doctor...?

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Ostfriese 12-23-24 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2937553)


Yes, doctor.
Do you have a local hospital? Have a look there, half the doctors are foreingers, and quite a lot of them are not fluent enough in German that they have to use google / gootle translator.

Skybird 12-23-24 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ostfriese (Post 2937554)
Yes, doctor.
Do you have a local hospital? Have a look there, half the doctors are foreingers, and quite a lot of them are not fluent enough in German that they have to use google / gootle translator.


The question is not for the title, but the qualification (or even the formal justification to call that title).

In Germany, different to psychologists and psychological psychotherapists, psychiatrists are medical doctors with a specialisation in neurology and/or psychoanalysis. Thats why you cannot get a doctor grade (PhD) in psychology over here, only in psychiatry (but then you do not study psychology, but medicine). In the German system, there is neither a "Dr. psych(ology)" nor a "Dr. psych(iatry)", only a "Dr. med". Medical students end their university time with a doctor grade, psychologists with a diploma (at my time) and today with either Master or Bachelor (thanks to the "Bologna" debacle). Today's Master is past time's diploma.

Skybird 12-23-24 07:03 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98l95d1773o


Saudi warnings.


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