I wonder how many of those American looking firearms Palestinians are dancing around in the streets with came from stocks our administration left in Afghanistan?

I admit I did not expect this.
But I am quite sure the weapons for Hamas are coming from Iran (not Afghanistan), and behind it all probably Putin. The worldwide destabilization is working for him.

I expect Israel wiiill react with a little more than just a "police operation". They now report over one hundred dead, and then there are the hostages.


Egypts warning shows that crow of same feather forever will fly together, no matter the babble done on a sunny day.


Concern is what Hezbollah is up to. This enemy is a completely different weight class than Hamas. Its assumed they have 100 to 150 thousand missiles and rockets, and as many fighters.


This action has written "escalation" all over it. Time for serious concerns.


By chance, yesterday I read something that reminded of that in the past wars, Eastgermany actively supported and delievered stuff to the enemies of Israel in the war in question - and Westgermany did nothing similiar for Israel.



Germany's Sugar-Anni used the opportunity to practice speaking with a low voice while sending dark looks at her notes sheet. If I were the Hamas leader, I would be really worried now. :haha:

Oh no doubt Putin and Iran support and supply the actions of Hamas and me wondering about what I see in the news does not in any way absolve them of their responsibility. But why I see Palestinians dancing in the streets holding what looks like U.S. made weapons is still valid. Because it is very well known the Taliban are selling them.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/07/05...les-terrorism/


Or maybe we should just ignore it and just chalk it up as an anti-Biden conspiracy theory so we don’t have to think about.

^ whatever created all this mess, reading the last part of the post above the destabilisation of the US obviously works :yeah:
:nope:

At 6:30 a.m. local time, Hamas launched a large-scale surprise attack on Israeli territory. Within hours, at least 2,500 rockets were fired, according to Israel. The Palestinians penetrated Israel by land, sea and air and crossed the border into the Gaza Strip at Erez. There, they reportedly captured several Israeli civilians. According to an Israeli spokesman, this morning there have been 22 deaths on the Israeli side and already more than 545 wounded. The resistance group Islamic Jihad, the second armed faction in Gaza, said it had joined the fighters. Palestinians are also said to have captured several tanks from the Israeli Defence Forces (IDF). Clashes between Israeli forces and Palestinians are taking place in villages on the Gaza border. How is it that Shin Bet and the Mossad, surely two of the strongest intelligence agencies in the world, had not seen this coming?

THis sounds like a military action, but the Hamas has and is not an army. So it all comes down to a terrorist act. Water on Natanyahu's mill to subdue the opposition, but this seems like a war indeed :hmmm:

Makes one wonder if Iran is behind it ?

Markus

Yep, but with some additional support: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...5&postcount=17
Main goal is to destabilize the US (see Skybird's Focus link). Unfortunately it is working well.

Yes they receive weapons from Iran, what I meant was, is Iran the brain behind this military operation ?

As you wrote:
" THis sounds like a military action, but the Hamas has and is not an army."

I see a high probability of Putin's Russia involved.

As he didn't have enough problems with the Ukrainians

It sounds plausible though.

Markus

Putin could use this to divert US attention from Ukraine to the ME.

For Hamas, its about torpedoing the peace process between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Its said that SA could be willing to sign a peace deal with Israel. Thjats why Hamas wants Israel to flatten parts of Gazta and kill as many civilians as possible. That creates healdines SA probably would not ignore, like Egypt already has threatened.

Israel now reports 150 of its own people killed, 1400 wounded.

Bodies of dead Israeli have been pulled through the streets.

Primitive scum is primitive scum, no matter how they dress it up.

I think you’re right, most likely these are two separate issues and I think we’re more than capable of handling both.

Meanwhile 300 Israeli dead, 1600 wounded.