That's exactly what it is. Classified documents in a paper based system are stamped and numbered and there is a physical chain of custody from the time they leave the comm center to the time they get to the designated recipient.

Once you put that stuff out on the internet you loose that physical chain of custody and this is the result.

Freaking MTG defends the fricking traitor! She is a traitor.
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I seem to recall that just a few years ago someone else leaked classified information about another ‘regime’, but that guy was seen by Democrats as Superman risking his life for truth justice and the American way. In fact weren’t you among those defending Lt Col. Vindmam a man also accused of leaking classified information as a hero of the state, whistleblower, and defender of freedom?

Personally I think both Vindmam, Teixeira and anyone else even thinking about it should be in jail. But I do feel a bit sorry for Teixeria, that young impressionable kid was just following Vindman’s example thinking he’d be defended as a hero, get a high paying job and book deal too.

“Remember the rules…If you illegally leak anything classified against Trump regime…you’re a brave whistleblower, and you’ll get a million-dollar book deal or a job at CNN. If you illegally leak anything classified against the Biden regime, even if it proves they’re lying about a war… you’ll get raided by the FBI, perp-walked, slammed in the press as a traitor, and probably spend the rest of your life in prison.”

You can’t have it both ways.

Yeah, she's an idiot. God, what did we do to deserve this? :wah:

How the NYT caught up with him:

This is a cyclic problem in the US Intelligence Community (IC).


In the past, in order to have access to classified information, a person had to possess two separate statuses.



1. Updated security clearance that allows access to that specific level of information
2. Demonstrated "Need to Know".


The concept was that just because an individual had the clearance does not mean that person automatically gains access to the information. Their job needed to have access and this NTK was, in many cases, officially documented by certifying officials (supervisor/Division Chief/...)


Only if a person possessed 1 and 2, were they allowed access to only that information they needed to perform their official duties.


Then 911 happened.


In addition to other over reactions, the 911 commission found that the IC was "too restrictive" (what ever that meant) and that there were instances where people who, retroactively, needed access to specific types of information were unable to gain access in a timely manner.


Congress clutched their pearls and exclaimed "oh how could this have happened? Something must be done!"



Note: NTK is still part of Federal law and Executive Branch directives.


So there was a movement, unofficially, called Need to Share. Under this unwise policy, information was restricted only if it could be demonstrated that an individual did not need access.


Officially, we still had NTK, but practically, if someone asked for access, they were given it.



Instead of demonstrating that a person needed access, it was presumed that absent of any conflicting information they would have access simply based on their active security clearance.



This was a knee-jerk overreaction. The solution was to fix the system so that the right people could get the right access to the right information at the right time. Not just open up the flood gates.



Fortunately, the panic of 2001 has faded by the 2010's and sanity started creeping back in. After all, NTK was still the law!


Unfortunately bad changes can happen quickly, especially when politically motivated, and good changes happen slowly, especially when logic and reason are involved.


Things are getting better, but we still have instances, such as this one, where Comms people, who have a valid NTK about the communications systems are given access to the information in the Communications systems which they don't have a NTK.



There simply is no reason why a secure coms cable tech like this person was should have had access to the data. All their responsibilities concern the proper installation, inspection, testing, and verification that the data links between part A and part B work according to standards.



Think if it in the terms of a Telephone installation/repair guy. Does he need to have access to your phone conversations? No. He needs access to the comm lines and have the ability to send test data to check the lines, but he has no NTK about your private conversations.



I predict that there will be a series of investigations, with political motivations, and some sort of knee-jerk over reaction as congress clutches their pearls and exclaims "oh how could this have happened? Something must be done!".


And the cycle continues......

Thank you Platapus. :salute:

I'm convinced there will come some changes and who can access them.

Markus

interesting analogy, I know for a fact that those telephone repairman can and do inadvertently become privy to those conversations in the course of their repair work.

I think that is likely what happened in this case, the Airman inadvertently gained access in the course of his duties, and let his curiosity get the better of him. he then compounded his error in judgement by disseminating that info across the internet. Regardless of his intent, the Kid needs time in the Brig.

That's certainly the mechanics of handling sensitive and classified information. For me, the Issue is what would make this kid essentially sell out his country, and for what. Reports suggest this kid did this to " Impress his little internet friends." His efforts have hurt another country ( The Ukraine ) which is fighting for it's freedom against an aggressor country. Other information he disseminated on the internet has hurt other countries and our standing with them. We may have our Issues with our Goverment but that doesn't mean you sell it out.

You, like many I have know in the military and our esteemed veterans here in Subsim would never, ever, for any reason, including money, sell out or undermine our country. Our U.S Government, like many Governments worldwide has it's share of Idiots. George Santos and as Neal and Budda pointed out, Rep Marjorie Taylor Green and Kevin McCarthy Immediately come to mind. The Walker Spy ring and Ronald Pelton also come to mind regarding betraying their country.
I just can't understand what would make someone betray or undermine their country. :k_confused:

As I wrote before it's more likely that an American would sell top secret stuff to an another country than a person who is born in an another country.

It was a Swedish survey who showed that a huge majority of those spies who got caught from 1940 and forward was Swedish citizens born in Sweden, while a very little part was born outside Sweden.
(This survey was made in the middle of the 90's)

Here is a wiki about the last spy and one of the biggest scandal in Sweden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stig_Bergling

Back to discuss American problems with who should access top secret papers.

Markus

People likely died because of this kid's actions. He should be shot.


We used to do that to spies.

I know, right? Why then is MAGA making excuses for him?

No clue.

Last time the U.S. executed anyone for spying (at least legally) was 1953. :03:

First he is not being charged with espionage.



FSecond we would have to find evidence that his betrayal actually did result in deaths and also prove that those same people would not have died without the betrayal.


A pretty tough case to prove.



Even Aldrich Ames, whose betrayal was demonstrated to have caused the execution of at least 10 sources was not given the death penalty. We have to settle for him rotting to death in a cage.