Great article Blair.

The Kilo has certainly proven to be a true low cost/value for money design and will be around for quite a while yet.

Yeah I see that on the page but to me it doesn't read right I'm curious is it a 6 engine plan or a 4 engine plan or both in different hulls ?

It may just be me and the way I'm reading it


Overall the A26 I would say is going to be superior to the Kilo especially in littoral waters such as the Baltic and North sea, however the Kilo will have a better deep water capability and this from the site leads me to that conclusion.

Swedish boats operate at certain depths and from being on HMSwS Uppland a while ago I was a little bit confused at first as to why the boat goes as deep as stated by the indicators

Thanks Jim much appreciated

Maybe of interest here, Kilo Rostov-na-Donu transits Istanbul towards Black Sea - Feb 13, 2022



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDgBHfRW-ZY




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsd5TKAHNA8




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7p5qd3yYHk

I have a couple of questions how long can the subs that left Sevastopol remain at sea? And what ever happened to those Russian supply boat(s) that left PACAREA and we’re supposedly heading to the Med? Did they make it into the Black Sea and can they be used as sub tenders?

46 days it is said.
First part i do not know, there were some "rescue" vessels entering the black sea before the war began ad they could be used as such.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ZVO4NWmpQ

On the other hand it is not necessary, they have Sevastopol. Though a well-aimed ukrainian Neptun would do the trick ... I guess Ukraine would be able to hit a surfaced ship, but submerged? They would need a navy, or long-range planes and helicopters for a search.
I wonder if a Global Hawk drone like Forte11 would be able to spot a snorkeling Kilo.

Back to the OP, did not want to divert, i do not know what happened to the russian supply boats – anyone?

The Kilo on standard configuration considering food stuffs and stores for a normal patrol 45 days, however war time conditions you could probably get 90 or so out of it.

Most of our boats can do 90 comfortably yet during the Falkland's when the store for war order came about a lot more was taken onboard, think it was conks that did 128 without re supply, I have heard one of our V boats during the pandemic did a 150 day stint.

As for the amphibs no one has heard from them for a while, as for sub tenders no they cant be used as sub tenders but there there is no need, with the Black sea closed off the Kilos can transfer to Novorossysk to re supply, they can also operate under normal transit conditions as the Ukraine doesn't have a navy that can reach them the other side of the Black sea.

Thanks catfish I have seen quite a few videos on the Kilo they are great boats, I know combat approved is Russian state TV but they did a series called Black sea fleet which included Rostov on Don, and theres also a dedicated episode to the Kilo herself.

The sub isn't it only the half of it ? Where the crew is the other half.

Markus

Not sure I follow what your meaning is

Been thinking and came to the conclusion that my question was wrong-No country would let a group of newbies take control over a modern sub.

The crew on a Kilo Class submarine is well trained and so is the crew on a modern American submarine.

Markus

Theres always new people on submarines but overall yes they wont be crewed by total new comers

This made me remember a series where you followed some young submariner candidate, Where they attend some Submarine school in Norfolk(I think it was)

Remember also they had to learn every little thing on the sub and where it was located.

Markus

Don’t think I have seen that one but it would be interesting to watch

As crew yes you do have to know every inch of the boat

One of the exercises they do on the British boats is to get you in a mask with a cover over the glass and then you got to work your way from one compartment to another using the BIBS (Built In Breathing System)

That’s a pipe that runs throughout the boat and you connect to it to receive air during an emergency

I will try and dig up a couple of pictures

Since I can't remember the title I had to make a lot of search on yt and I found this series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dZBNFFaDkY

The Series I saw was in a school where they trained fire on board, Water leak and many other disaster that could happen on a sub.

Markus

Quickest and simplest imho Blair

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Built-in_breathing_system