If you read Aeronautical Information Publication Enr 1.12, it describes our authority to intercept almost all aircraft (diplomatic is one exception) and force it to land for inspection at any time the aircraft is within our Air Defense Identification Zone.

^ This made me wonder

How far up does a countries sovereignty go ?

On sea it's around 12 nm but up how far ? Even 12 nm here ?

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Markus

It does not matter, the "suspect" is neither a criminal nor a terrorist or anything like that. The terorrist and crimninal is Lukashenko (and Putin).

And this, post #1:
"Around 2013, when a business jet by Bolivia's President Evo Morales was forced to land in Vienna on its way from Russia to Bolivia because ex-US secret service agent Edward Snowden was suspected to be on board and France, Italy, Spain and Portugal refused to fly over."

If that was no breach of the diplomatic immunity you pointed at, then I apparently do not understand what the term means.

How do you know that? You kids on that continent have some funny ideas sometimes about free speech and personal freedoms. He may have run afoul of some Belarusian law.

I'm sure if he hasn't he will be found in violation of one anyway. It stinks, but hello, the world and people have a vast capability to suck regularly.

FOCUS Online writes:


The case of Roman Protassevich, who is kidnapped by the Belarusian authorities on an intra-European flight, once again reveals the reluctance and powerlessness of the EU in its foreign policy. The naivety of Brussels must come to an end. -

The American geostrategist Robert Kagan, once started as a neoconservative in the service of Secretary of State George P. Shultz, later advised the presidential candidate John McCain, only to leave the Republican Party screaming in the Trump vs. Clinton election campaign and to join the realpolitician Hillary Clinton. He is one of the great independent thinkers in the USA. In his standard work "Power and Powerlessness" [I think the real original title is:Of Paradise and Power: America and Europe in the New World Order, Skybird] it says: -

“We should no longer pretend that Europeans and Americans share the same worldview, or that they even live in the same world. On the all-important question of power - the question of effectiveness, ethics, and the desirability of power - American and European views diverge. (...) Europe turns away from power. It enters a post-historical paradise of peace and relative prosperity that equates to the realization of Kant's, Eternal Peace ‛. (...) In contrast, the United States remains stuck in history and wields power in an anarchic world in which international regulations and international law cannot be relied on and in which true security still depends on the possession and use of military power. "-

The Americans came from Mars and the Europeans from Venus, he summarizes his analysis. -

Little has changed in this finding. After Trump, America has returned to a rule-based but nonetheless militarily defensive foreign policy. Europe has remained the procrastinator who looks with the eyes of love at a world that unfortunately eludes his harmonious longings: -

A war is raging on the eastern border of Ukraine, which the Russian leadership, in accordance with its strategic goals, is sometimes boiling down and then boiling up again. Europe begs Putin for peace. -

Turkey has left the route to Europe that has been offered to it and is using the refugees from the slums of the world as hostages to extort more and more payments. Europe grimaces, but pays. -

On August 23, 2019, Putin had the Berlin zoo murdered and the opposition Alexei Navalny imprisoned and harassed at home. Europe hands over its dispatches.

The Islamist terrorist organization Hamas, which is supported by Iran and Saudi Arabia among others, has launched a military offensive against Israel. Germany cannot even get a grip on anti-Semitism on its own streets, where the hostility to Jews from home and from immigrants embraces each other. -

Belarusian President Lukashenko is not afraid of forcing a Ryanair plane from its interceptors in Minsk and arresting the journalist and blogger Roman Protassevich in front of the world. Europe is threatened - but with what? -

This has been going on for decades. Europe is permanently appalled, routinely disapproves of the use of force and assures the attacked Israelis and the imprisoned Belarusian journalist of specifically European solidarity - that is, guaranteed without consequences. -

This Europe is the stadium announcer who counts the goals of the tournament participants without even entering the field. This Europe is the angel of peace who has no wings and therefore cannot fly. In its deliberate naivety, this Europe will ultimately protect no one - not even itself. Mars and Venus are 120 million kilometers apart in the planetary system and light years apart in political orbit. It would be worth talking about in the election year too. -

Several European airlines have said that they will not fly over Belarus, days after a dissident journalist was arrested on a flight diverted to Minsk.

Air France is the latest major carrier to ban overflights. Neighbouring Ukraine and Poland are stopping all flights to and from Belarus.

Western countries accuse Belarus of hijacking the Ryanair plane carrying journalist Roman Protasevich on Sunday.

The Greece-Lithuania flight was rerouted over a supposed bomb threat.

Belarus authorities on Monday released video of Mr Protasevich that appears to have been recorded under duress since his arrest.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-57239162

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJL5rE0k79Y

sounds like you boys over there got yourself a little problem again so i'm going watch how y'all handle this but i know,mother Russia will flex her arms and y'all be on your knee's or you be screaming for the ole red,white and blue only country i see with the manhood is UK and i'm not sure what state UK military wise is and biden don't get me started on him best thing i can say about him he couldn't get himself out of a wet paper bag and he could mess up a special kind of dream

Nothing to do with the UK as far as I'm concerned. Best if left to the EU to 'deal' with it.

Lets see how the mighty EU deal with a tyrant. :haha:

"UK acts now!". "That is why we left!"
How is the "UK"'s answer different or more effective than what all else in Europe do? :hmmm:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...rren-mccaffery

The Express, humble as always :D

An Air France flight from Paris to Moscow wanted to avoid Belarussian airspace, and was rejected by Russia for an alternative route into and through Russian airspace to Moscow. It had to break off.

Maybe its a good idea to cancel all flight movements from and to Russia, too?

Oh, and have a closer look at Kaliningrad. Not only is it a Russian sensor and missile thorn driven deep in NATO's Eastern front area, but its also a vulnerability for the Russians, exposed and land-isolated as it is.

Oh, wait, I forgot. It would need military capability and cojohnes to do that. Okay. Send a protest note then, and then let grass grow over it all.

^ Also avoid Austria then:
https://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/02/w...ane/index.html
:O:

I wonder what this meeting between Biden and Putin will accomplish.

^Got mentioned in the linked story in post 1 already. They also reminded of an incident 50 years ago when two Libyans fighterjets enforced the landing of a British plane at Tripolis to get two Sudanese revolutionists off the plane.

Russia has just banned/thrown out three German political-cultural NGOs.


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