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CapZap1970 06-27-20 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2680121)
My advice didn’t work?

On my computer if i set antialiasing more than X4 multisampling and gamma correction on on, i have the flat sun...but respecting what i said above, sun is perfect :yep:
Plus if you set antialiasing compatibility to Diablo III in inspector, it’s like my AA was X8!
(You can check my screen shots in screen shot thread, they are just perfect)

Fifi, what inspector? is that a prog?... I am still trying to figure things out...


CapZap

Fifi 06-27-20 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapZap1970 (Post 2680251)
Fifi, what inspector? is that a prog?... I am still trying to figure things out...


CapZap

Google search: Nvidia inspector download :yep:
Little very helpful program for Nvidia owners!

CapZap1970 06-27-20 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2680254)
Google search: Nvidia inspector download :yep:
Little very helpful program for Nvidia owners!

Yeah, you are right. I forgot about it, you gave me that hint a while ago, but I forgot about it when I re formated my pc... I just reinstaled it and will give it a try.... I will launch SH3 right now to see if the flat sun is gone now using your settings...

I remember everything was fine after using your settings last time...



CapZap

CapZap1970 06-28-20 12:05 AM

RickSarg and Fifi:


I tried both your settings in every possible way, GWX only, SH3 1.4b, with my mods on top of GWX, GWX flat sun fix, etc, you name it,I've tried...
The result is exactly the same, the flat sun is still there.


The only benefit I got out of this long period of tests is that the image in general is fantastic, the jagged image is almost 100% gone and I am pleased with it.

After trying every piece of advice you guys gave me without positive result, it's obvious that something else is causing the flat sun, and I guess it has something to do with a graphics card setting. Until I can precise the origin of this, I will leave my current settings untouched, becuase I am very happy with the results..


Anyway, thanks a lot for your advices and time guys! We didn't fix the main issue, but something else good came out of it.


:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:


CapZap

Fifi 06-28-20 01:54 AM

:hmmm: That is strange...I’m convinced it’s because your game has too much AA...wich leads to flat sun.
Have you tried to set BOTH (In your Nvidia control panel) global parameters tab and programs parameters tab, the gamma correction OFF and AA X4 multisampling ?
Just because sometimes Win10 doesn’t take in account only one of them...(it happened to me)

Have a look here, those are my Nvidia settings (for SH4 but works also for SH3!)
It’s in French but easily translated in english.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=107

RickSarg 06-28-20 04:19 AM

@CapZap

try downloading the file Lensflare Effekt by TP, from here: https://maikhaas.synology.me:5001/fs.../TESTPILOT1978

This is the version I placed into my Enviro Mod

Rick

CapZap1970 06-28-20 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2680310)
:hmmm: That is strange...I’m convinced it’s because your game has too much AA...wich leads to flat sun.
Have you tried to set BOTH (In your Nvidia control panel) global parameters tab and programs parameters tab, the gamma correction OFF and AA X4 multisampling ?
Just because sometimes Win10 doesn’t take in account only one of them...(it happened to me)

Have a look here, those are my Nvidia settings (for SH4 but works also for SH3!)
It’s in French but easily translated in english.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=107


Still have this to try, didn't check that settings are the same in both tabs.... :hmmm:

CapZap1970 07-01-20 04:51 PM

Today I launched SH3 with GWX and my usual mods and... Voilà!!!! Te flat sun is gone!!! :D
Tried both settings, RickSarg's and Fifi's and with both of them it works fine.... don't know what happened, but we are beck to normal now.


I suspect that in some occasions the SH5 Environment mod causes the flat sun, but I wonder why it does occasionally... :hmmm:

I decided to stop using this mod to avoid further problems.


CapZap

RickSarg 07-01-20 05:41 PM

You do tend to get a flat sun effect where the clouds are a little heavier from time to time seams to be a game limitation where we don't have proper SH5 Shaders.

Rick

CapZap1970 07-07-20 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickSarg (Post 2680927)
You do tend to get a flat sun effect where the clouds are a little heavier from time to time seams to be a game limitation where we don't have proper SH5 Shaders.

Rick


Yes indeed, if the sun is behind thick clouds, it appears to get flat, but obviously it is not a permanent issue, because as the clouds move or dissapear, there is no flat sun at all, and even with clouds, I can see some faint looong rays coming from the sun. So, to make it short, it was a file from a mod that was left in the main SH3(GWX) folder somehow without JSGME installation that was causing all the problem of the flat sun...
Now can use any env mod and the issue is totally gone... :D


CapZap

clayton 08-25-21 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CapZap1970 (Post 2681972)
Yes indeed, if the sun is behind thick clouds, it appears to get flat, but obviously it is not a permanent issue, because as the clouds move or dissapear, there is no flat sun at all, and even with clouds, I can see some faint looong rays coming from the sun. So, to make it short, it was a file from a mod that was left in the main SH3(GWX) folder somehow without JSGME installation that was causing all the problem of the flat sun...
Now can use any env mod and the issue is totally gone... :D


CapZap

What is the file called? This might explain my issues.

CapZap1970 08-26-21 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayton (Post 2764851)
What is the file called? This might explain my issues.

Uhhh, you got me there.... It has been a while since I fixed that problem that I completely forgot about it...


However, I am pretty sure after many tests that everything is solved by using the right values in the Nvidia profile inspector app just as Fifi said. Once I got used to do that, didn't have the flat sun problem anymore :yep:

Anvart 08-26-21 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi (Post 2680310)
...
It’s in French but easily translated in english.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...&postcount=107

:haha:
Great idea, considering that the info is in pictures.

John Pancoast 08-27-21 07:51 PM

This if for GWX if it helps. From onelifecrisis.

clayton 08-28-21 08:42 PM

Thanks! I got it sorted, which means don't alt-tab thinking your gonna bump up your graphic settings; flat sun appears every time.


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