If the question is who is the biggest tool, that would be Norman Schwartzkopf. I could not think of a bigger tool than he was during the Gulf War, but that's just a personal opinion

Definitely. Although he was a veteran, in my book hitler was more of a political leader than a military commander, albeit one who didn't hesitate to kibitz military strategy (based on his vast experience as a corporal).

Of the few commander examples that I mentioned earlier some were political leaders too but they were also generals who led their armies and fleets into battle and to me that's the criterion for choosing greatest military commanders.

Agreed. :up:

Consider for a moment Gen. Lee Butler.
Most of you are saying "Who?" but Lee Butler was the last CINC-SAC and had more firepower under his command than many nations.
He was also one of the few CINC-SACs who actually looked into SAC's total war plan (SIOP) and came away from the experience not angry but shocked.

Targets weren't important due to their location, targets were important because that was how many warheads we had. :o

Somehow, he managed to turn most of it off.

I would gladly buy the guy a beer. :Kaleun_Salute:

Talking in general - that would be Napoleon.

Being more patriotic - Admiral Ushakov - the more I study his life and career, the more I admire him. Nearly always fought being outnumbered and outclassed by enemies - never lost any of his 43 battles, never lost a ship and none of his men has ever been taken POW.

Lots of memories about being at SAC. Most of them are good memories, but all of them were interesting.



It was a different era..

Totally impossible to say due to so many factors in history.

I grew up inside the thermonuclear footprint of Loring AFB. :D
Open House days at the base were a great time. We'd go up to see the planes on display and there were always the T Birds or the Blue Angels but everyone ALWAYS made a bee line to see the Master SGT from Louisville. He'd have a table set up with BBQ that would curl your toes. :yeah:
Actually, as it turned out, we lived really close to the IP for the Ashland (Me.) bomb plot.
If we saw six B-52's flying low level near the house, it was a normal day.
I saw at least ten of them one day and told my folks that we should watch the news that night. That was the day the TWA flight crashed at Lockerbee. :o
I wound up later on with a work study job setting up physics labs for the comm. college next to the crew ready room and its ominous "no lone zone" sign on the door.
I had a really good buddy in high school who got into "the family business" and wound up working the flight line at Pease before he became a crew chief on one of the 509th's FB-111s. He made it 22 years before he retired out. :up:

I was on the Bremerton and home ported in Pearl back in 1991-92 when we figured out the cold war was finally over. It was weird, it finally felt like you could exhale.

:salute: