Not zero gain. He got himself in the history books.

True, for what that's worth. So did the Elephant man.

Yes. The ignorance is what the Darwin really is awarded for, in the end.

You mean like the Red Devils, or the Navy's Blue Angles doing formation fly-overs at low altitude over crowds of people and everybody applauding, and doing insane manouvers at high speed at closest proximitiy to each other, and to crowds of audience? Or a mountain climber, maybe even a free climber doing the El Capitano in Yosemite without ropes, just with his toes and fingertips? Or Felix Baumgartner doing his stratosphere jump? All these things are insane risks - any mistake = instant death, for zero gain.

Maybe no gain for you. But those doing it, obviously see a gain, else they would not do it. And the often applauded military jet shows over crowds of people - I recall that many years ago you and me even banged heads over that, at least I think it was you. I attacked these shows, you said they are spectacular. Ramstein, anyone? Such shows are what I would call insane risks and no gains, since they put others at risk. But all and everybody is applauding.

The free climber in the mountain wall, Baumgartner in the Stratosphere, or now this jumper at least do not ramstein anyone else than themselves, if things go wrong.

I could even say that sending a man on Mars also is insane. One mistake, one broken chip worth ten cents - and mission over.

Anders Breivik achieved that as well.

He did a controlled stunt with private funds with full knowledge of risks.
The only one in danger was himself.

My god, so much opposition to people doing what they love.
But if I said something about how people are weird because they watch the computer screen for hours looking for a few dark pixels in a bright blue background and theny yelling in German, I'd get verbally murdered.

Zero opposition, he can jump every day if he wants, I just agreed with Neal that, in my opinion, this is completely retarded for many reasons and that I personally do not acknowledge his "historical achievement."

Calling something retarded is opposition.

No, it's called having an opinion.
If I'd make any attempts of stopping him, or anyone, from this nonsense, then yes.

As they say; He's got 'sand' and occasionally: sandals!
 

And my opinion is that I think it's retarded to outrage about things that are harmless (except for the one that willingfully chose the risk), not tay payed and not influencing one's life sipmply becasue it doesn't fall into the ''things I like category''.
Or as I call it the grumpy old man syndrome when one has to constantly cry about things other people like just becasue one cannot do that anymore or neve rhad the chance.
Like having a cell phone, listening to rock and roll and spending vacation abroad. I have to deal with people like you every day and the only crime I commited is being further away from the grave.

That's... good for you, I guess? :yep:

So, everyone who opposes this stunt is automatically some grumpy dick?
How ironic...

Oh btw: I go Skydiving every once in a while - with a parachute.

People like me? Oh, OK.
And further from the grave?
Even if I'd be 60 or so... that's not how it works, you know?

I guess. I just read the story and I have already forgot his name.

As long as he used private funds and did not hurt destroy anything, I don't have a problem with this, but at the same time, don't really have any interest either.

There are so many other ways to "make history" by helping people and trying to make the world a little bit better. What could he have accomplished if he had taken this money and effort and put it to something else?

When one opposes it with such a passion that would go argue with Sky about it, yes.

There's a difference between an opinion and a tirade.


And about skydiving, good for you. Your money, your risk.
Skydiving without a parachute, his money, his risk.
And you have a lot bigger probability of killing someone than this guy since they likely closed off the area he might hit if he missed while they won't close off the highway you might hit if there's a parachute malfunction. Or playground, or public square.

Must be true if you say so.
After all, you seem to know a lot about tirades and opposing people's opinions passionately. :salute:

To remind you. All I said is: I think this is retarded/not worth the fuss.
Wow, take cover everybody! :har:

Yeah, something something whatever.
Do you wish to continue with your prejudicial crusade in the name of "TOLERATE OTHER PEOPLES HOBBIES OR I WILL TELL YOU HOW MUCH I DON'T LIKE YOU NOT LIKING SOMETHING!" and assume even more things about me (old, not able to skydive, ...) or are we done here calling others grumpy and 'passionate' while a close look in the mirror wouldn't hurt?

Personally, I really don't really need this.

Is it stupid to argue about stupidity? :hmmm:

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