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Onkel Neal 05-21-16 10:11 AM
*sigh* All right, I don't live in your shoes, I am not going to discuss this any further.

Schroeder 05-21-16 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2405884)
No, let me tell you what's terrible.
Living in your parents house because no bank will touch you without a full time contract.
Living in your parents house because there is no certainty that you'll be able to pay rent in 2 months from now.
Being fired every six months for a week because a loophole was placed in the laws to prevent the company having to take you in full time (law states that they can only extend a ''starting'' 3 month contract one time before they are obliged to give you a full time).
Not daring to plan your vacation because you fear that that money you just spent on booking will be needed to survive before the summer begins.
Not trying to start a family because your wife/gf will be fired as soon as the contract ends or even worse, the next day she anounces she's pregnant. Full maternity leave is available only with full time contracts and they are as rare as a dodo bird after the last few labor reforms the French are protesting against.
Companies allowed to give you an option to be self employed of GTFO, which means no paid vacation and no paid sick leave. You break your arm at work, tough luck, best case scenario you're out of a months wage, worse case, the job is given to someone else.

That is what we got and the French are getting and the French were lucky enough to have been warned. We just got informed by employers one day that the laws have changed.
Welcome to turbo capitalism....I fear we'll get there one day too. We're already taking steps there.:dead:

Betonov 05-21-16 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal (Post 2405993)
*sigh* All right, I don't live in your shoes, I am not going to discuss this any further.
Me neither. I actually like you. Which is no small feat.
But I just tried to say that the entitled generation isnt the only one that feels screwed over by the we-were-entitled generation. It's the hardworkers and earners of my age that feel cheated and since we know the value of work we dont burn down shops and throw bricks at cops. We can only hope that the thieves of our future are hit by a wayward anarchists brick one day.

August 05-21-16 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2405971)
...now has the cohones to acuse my generation of being priviliged spoiled brats becasue we demand the SAME LEVEL OF LIVING STANDARDS
I don't recall saying any of that. I only pointed out that what comes after storming the Bastille is usually far worse than what it replaced.

You think you're different then more power to you.

Oberon 05-21-16 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 2406000)
Welcome to turbo capitalism....I fear we'll get there one day too. We're already taking steps there.:dead:
http://i.imgur.com/erLX2DQ.gif

August 05-21-16 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2405971)
No, not enough, that's rich coming from a republican that lived trough an era of American history that benefited job and life securities from the Roosevelt administration...
Oh and those job and life securities would not be there without a functioning government to preserve them. Had we followed your advice to burn it all down we'd have nothing.

So maybe it's rich coming from me but if you continue to ignore this basic truth you'll deserve what you get.

HunterICX 05-21-16 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 2406010)
I don't recall saying any of that. I only pointed out that what comes after storming the Bastille is usually far worse than what it replaced.
Exactly, look what happened after the American Revolutionary War!

(ha-ha! :O:)

Betonov 05-21-16 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 2406010)
I don't recall saying any of that. I only pointed out that what comes after storming the Bastille is usually far worse than what it replaced.

You think you're different then more power to you.
You were thinking it :O:

This won't be the storming of the Bastille. Or the masacre of the Romanovs, bansihment of Batista...
The elected parties will refill the assembly with it's younger members, the democratic process will go on and the one thing that will change is that the replacement MP's will sit in their comfy chairs with a thin brown line in their underwear in fear that they might suffer the same fate as their predecesors should they relegate citizen rights to the elite few.

The lack of that thin brown line gives MP's the cohones to flip the bird to the workers

August 05-21-16 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterICX (Post 2406020)
Exactly, look what happened after the American Revolutionary War!

(ha-ha! :O:)
Hence my use of the word "usually". Personally I think we got lucky. Lucky that the removal of the Crowns authority didn't cause us to descend into the horrors experienced by the French just a few years later. I think it's mainly because the colonies were already pretty much self sustaining entities and didn't need to start completely over.

August 05-21-16 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2406021)
The lack of that thin brown line gives MP's the cohones to flip the bird to the workers
That's what we're getting at with our 2nd Amendment.

Betonov 05-21-16 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 2406056)
That's what we're getting at with our 2nd Amendment.
And we with our 18th crommosome.
A slavic gene for total contempt for authority.

Unfortunately that also means we have total contempt for any authority that might organise a resistance against the parasites in Ljubljana.

catch 22

Mr Quatro 05-22-16 09:09 AM
Lets hope that history doesn't repeat itself :o

There was a war called the Peasants' War way back in , 1524–26, rising of the German peasants and the poorer classes of the towns,
particularly in Franconia, Swabia, and Thuringia.

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Some atrocities by the peasants (e.g., the massacre of Weinsberg) marked the war, but those committed by their enemies were worse. The revolt received the blessing of the Swiss reformer Huldreich Zwingli and in Thuringia was led by the radical Anabaptist leader Thomas Münzer. Martin Luther, however, condemned the revolt, thus contributing to its eventual defeat. Lacking unity and firm leadership, the peasant forces were crushed (1525) largely by the army of the Swabian League. It is estimated that 100,000 peasants were killed. In Austria, where the revolt continued until 1526, the peasants won some concessions, but in most areas they suffered continued or increased restrictions and had to pay tribute. The peasants' defeat dissuaded further attempts by the peasantry to improve their social and political position.

Betonov 05-22-16 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2406236)
Lets hope that history doesn't repeat itself :o

There was a war called the Peasants' War way back in , 1524–26, rising of the German peasants and the poorer classes of the towns,
particularly in Franconia, Swabia, and Thuringia.
Slovenes had 5 peasant revolts in our history, in 1478, 1515, 1572, 1635 and 1717.
And the ''speed trap'' revolts of 2012 where speed traps were attacked with clios and a mayor had to resign and the 2012-2013 anti-goverment protests where early elections had to be held in fear of an even further uprising

Oberon 05-22-16 12:16 PM
I think the last one we had was around 1990, not counting the 2011 riots since they weren't really politically motivated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_Tax_Riots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o98_hia8tA

Although the Fuel protests in 2000 were pretty successful, and certainly caused a nervous week or two for the UK government of the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_p...d_Kingdom#2000


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