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Platapus 02-08-16 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2379954)
Does anyone take any notice of the UN theses days?

They should come to the realisation they only exist because of the generosity of one or two countries.

Well if the big five were to abide by the rules, that would go a lot further in convincing other countries to listen.

Jimbuna 02-09-16 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2380244)
He'd probably set in motion a scheme to extract Assange from the embassy while imposing an economic blockade/sanctions on the Ecuadorian nation...



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Good job Thatcher isn't in office then because she'd probably have the SAS go in and drag him out :03:

STEED 02-09-16 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2380426)
Good job Thatcher isn't in office then because she'd probably have the SAS go in and drag him out :03:

Would have saved £££££ worth of dosh.

mapuc 02-09-16 04:13 PM

Another thing about the Swedish judicial system-Which I have been told by my Cousin and by reading and watching educational program about this

In Sweden you are, when arrested, guilty until proven not guilty

Markus

Jimbuna 02-12-16 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 2380446)
Would have saved £££££ worth of dosh.

About £12 million as far as I'm aware.

Catfish 02-12-16 09:19 AM

What has been added, in that sum?

The protection against outlandish seceret sevrice trying to kill him? :doh:

kraznyi_oktjabr 02-12-16 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2380453)
Another thing about the Swedish judicial system-Which I have been told by my Cousin and by reading and watching educational program about this

In Sweden you are, when arrested, guilty until proven not guilty

Markus

Are you serious? If you get charged with murder its your responsibility to prove yourself innocent rather than prosecutor proving that you are guilty? If that is the case then I really understand Mr. Assange's reluctance of facing Swedish "justice system"...

Sailor Steve 02-12-16 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr (Post 2381013)
Are you serious? If you get charged with murder its your responsibility to prove yourself innocent rather than prosecutor proving that you are guilty? If that is the case then I really understand Mr. Assange's reluctance of facing Swedish "justice system"...

Reminds me of a line I heard in a show recently: "Of course he's guilty! Otherwise he wouldn't be a suspect!"

I have to agree. Any system that requires the suspect to prove his innocence has nothing to do with justice. We have enough problems with innocent people being found "guilty" as it is.

Tchocky 02-12-16 11:30 AM

I.....don't believe that's how the Swedish system works.

Betonov 02-12-16 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tchocky (Post 2381029)
I.....don't believe that's how the Swedish system works.

Me neither.
If our half balkan judicial quagmire gives you ''innocent until proven guilty'' then Sweden should he at least equall if not better than that.

Dowly 02-12-16 12:24 PM

I think mapuc might have misunderstood it.

Both in Sweden and in Finland, it does matter how publicized a case and the perps are. For example, 6-7 months ago, woman was sexually assaulted in Finland. She was taken hold of by two, while one was putting his finger in her you-know-what. The case was highly publicized and eventually, because of that their sentences were lowered.

****ing awesome justice system is it not? :-?

Hell, in Finland, "life sentence" is about 14-15 years, in some cases it has been longer but usually that's the "life sentence" you get in Finland.

It's a joke.

kraznyi_oktjabr 02-12-16 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2381039)
I think mapuc might have misunderstood it.

I really hope so. I had always assumed our system's were quite similar.

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2381039)
Both in Sweden and in Finland, it does matter how publicized a case and the perps are. For example, 6-7 months ago, woman was sexually assaulted in Finland. She was taken hold of by two, while one was putting his finger in her you-know-what. The case was highly publicized and eventually, because of that their sentences were lowered.

****ing awesome justice system is it not? :-?

Yeah, my faith in our judiciary is sinking.

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Originally Posted by Dowly (Post 2381039)
Hell, in Finland, "life sentence" is about 14-15 years, in some cases it has been longer but usually that's the "life sentence" you get in Finland.

It's a joke.

Yes, and most incredible thing is that there is always "the second chance". About ten years ago there was case of (not-so-)gentleman who was on police's custody on suspicion of muder for third time. He got conviction of murder, was pardoned, commited another within month, got convicted , pardoned and (according to police) commited anaother murder within a week... :nope: I didn't follow that case any further so don't know if he was convicted or not.

This system is a joke!

Platapus 02-12-16 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2381022)
Reminds me of a line I heard in a show recently: "Of course he's guilty! Otherwise he wouldn't be a suspect!"


Perhaps it was Edwin Meese, AG 85-88, who said

"...But the thing is, you don`t have many suspects who are innocent of a crime. That`s contradictory. If a person is innocent of a crime, then he is not a suspect."

in the words of Joe Biden at the time the highest ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Commitee,

"My God. . . . Ed Meese`s answer is the overwhelming proof of why we need Miranda . . . because there are people like Ed Meese who believe that anyone who`s a suspect is guilty until proven innocent. My God, this guy`s beginning to worry me."

Maybe Meese can be Trump's AG?

mapuc 02-12-16 04:20 PM

Dowly is correct

It is me who must have misunderstood something.

Markus

vienna 02-12-16 06:48 PM

IIRC, wasn't Ed Meese forced to resign over his involvement in scandals involving highly unethical, and possibly criminal activities while in office? But of course, since he was a Regan acolyte, and there fore above the law, he wasn't really a suspect, was he, since by his own definition, he was automatically guilty...



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