Sounds like Schroeder needs to binge watch Dukes of Hazzard.

HHHMMM, Daisy Dukes...:D

I know I'll catch it from Oberon
 

Now that we are banning flags,, why not the British flag ,, it all started with the British anyway, they didn't have to come and colonize ,, north america but,, no they came with soldiers and cannon,, and killed the native inhabitants,, they also brought slaves from Africa,, another country they tried to conquer,, and when the colonist in the americas rose up against tyranny,, the king of england {british} started to kill his own people thus having the American revolution,, there fore I think we should ban the British flag, I can't think of any other flag that symbolizes centuries of oppression and tyranny, and it sorta looks like the confederate flag anyway.. Thank you and have a nice day.

You mean you couldn't think of maybe the Nazi flag, the USSR flag, the PRC flag, the PRK flag among others? It's amazing what one can find if one gives a matter some or any thought at all...

So, you would be OK with banning the UK flag because it is a symbol of "oppression and tyranny"? Then it can be deduced you would likewise agree to ban another symbol of "oppression and tyranny", the Confederate flag; and, if we add treason, sedition, actively consorting with foreign powers against the US (the Confederacy was actively seeking and being given support by the UK; look up "Alabama Claims" to verify) among other transgressions by the Confederacy, it is only logical the "Stars and Bars" is a symbol of things far worse than the Union Jack...

Oh, and my days are always nice... :sunny:



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[QUOTE=vienna;2325571]You mean you couldn't think of maybe the Nazi flag, the USSR flag, the PRC flag, the PRK flag among others? It's amazing what one can find if one gives a matter some or any thought at all

Oh, and my days are always nice... :sunny:



non of the above add up to centuries,, american history is intertwinded with the British so it's a valid point,, liberals are loyalist to the crown are they not.

and yet,, you seem to be ok with Obama doing it

So, there is a time limit on oppression, tyranny, treason, sedition, actively consorting with foreign powers, etc. Are you saying as long as the transgressions and crimes occur under a certain duration, there is "no harm, no foul"? 'Well, Hitler slaughtered and enslaved for less than twenty years, so it's ok'; 'The USSR only oppressed for less than ninety years, so lets give them a pass'. Tell us, is there also a time restriction on other, mundane crimes? If you are a serial killer for less than, say, five years, do you get a pass until you reach your minimum years of 'service'? How long do you have to mug people or assault people before you are eligible to be arrested? Please tell us so we may be able to discern the despicable from the mere underachieving... :haha:

Hmm, IIRC, the loyalists to the Crown at the time of the American Revolution were oligarchs, wealthy, privileged businessmen and nobles who were more concerned with keeping the status quo in regards to their big businesses and maintaining their wealth and the power it gave to them. You know, kinda like the Far Right today. It was those pesky liberals in the colonies who had strange ideas about independence and equality and power through democracy rather than wealth and influence who got them upset and caused them to send a fleet and troops to put and end to that nonsense. This country and its government are here not because of what would be now called conservative values...


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Specifics please; I prefer facts to rhetoric...


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Not that watching you bash the troll isn't fun Vienna but i'm pretty sure that you'd consider me to be Far Right too and i'm none of those things.

Just sayin...

If the south wants to display the Stars and Bars, I could understand. But the flag under consideration is a battle flag of an illegal rebellion that threatened the United States as a union.

I do not feel it is appropriate to display, other in a restricted strictly historical manner, any battle flag of an enemy of the United States inside the United States.

I used to have a Japanese flag in my room when I was in Martial Arts.. but I would not hang a Japanese battle flag. There is a difference between a national flag and a battle flag. The fact that the United States used the same flag for both, does not nullify this difference.

The fact that a portion of our nation takes pride in what was an illegal rebellion that attempted to affect our sovereignty via unconstitutional means concerns me.

I have said many, many times before in various threads that I am politically an independent. I do bristle when someone calls me a liberal in a pejorative sense. I also bristle when calls me a conservative in a pejorative sense. (There are some who have known me for a while who would say I bristle at most anything.) I really don't care about party affiliation or whatever maybe the political "meme of the day". I have friends and acquaintances who are both conservative and liberal. We have very spirited discussions but the one thing they are not is to the extreme in their politics. They also feel there are those of both stripes who spew rhetoric without gist, those who regurgitate whatever they hear on NPR or Rush or wherever they get their "ideas". I have no quarrel with any of the rational conservatives, like yourself, who are part of this forum. In fact, I often find myself agreeing with a lot of them about a lot of subjects. You may be Far Right, but I don't see you or many of the other persons on this forum as "Good lord, you cant be serious!" Far Right...

I seem to be unable to let slide some of the more inane statements or arguments some of the "trolls", as you put it spew. Perhaps I should also have asked for a time limit on how long one can spew before it is proper to respond...

If I should appear to be harsh to the Far Right, it is unintentional. Let's face it: given the nature, subject and demographics of this board, there aren't exactly going to be a lot of Far Left liberals posting here. I'm just sayin'...


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Amen, brother! Preach the Word!...


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I fully support removing the flag from most government contexts. If a private citizen wants to fly the flag on their own property, I have no problem with that. If a person wishes to fly a Nazi flag on their property, they are within their right as well. If a company wants to stop selling or displaying the flag, they are within their rights, but the government has no business banning the sale or display of it. I personally do not understand the attachment some people have to the flag.

The flag almost absolutely does not belong on government property.
I don't have an issue with the flag being displayed in historical contexts, such as battlegrounds or cemeteries. I'm not quite decided on the issue of flying it at monuments. (Unless those are privately owned/funded.)

What are the demographics of this board ?:hmmm: