And that's why no new country should get them. It's bad enough that a few countries have them already so let's try to not make more of them. The more countries have nukes the more likely it gets that one might get used. So I don't call it hypocrisy but common sense. The US can't just ditch their nukes as there is still Russia, China, Pakistan and perhaps North Korea. As nuclear exchanges have become less and less likely with the Russia and China the less stable countries are a real concern especially if they are dominated by an ideology that sees non believers a sub humans that either have to be converted, subjugated or exterminated. I trust the US to keep their nukes safe and away from nut jobs, I can't say the same for Pakistan.

Aye, although if it's any consolation I don't think a nuclear war would eradicate mankind. We're too spread out. Although it would really screw us up, I mean, set us way back into the dark ages, post-Roman era, that kind of stuff.
Hence why, as hypocritical as it seems, the big powers are doing their best to put the nuclear genie back in the bottle, because the more countries have a nuclear weapon, the more likelihood there is of a nuclear able country being in a major war and the more likelihood there is of said country using nuclear weapons. Israel came very close in 1973, and there were countless near misses in the Cold War.
If we could put it all back, stop the expansion of the nuclear arms industry, then that's a start.

Guess I agree with a bitter taste in my mouth.
I can see how this is "right" but then again... its not.

Kind of the "lesser evil" option I assume.

Aye, Shades of Grey...and not the horrendous book/film reference fifty of them.

To be honest, no. If, and that is a un-demonstrated if, Iran wishes to build nuclear weapons, there is little we can do to stop it.

I am reminded of the words of Plato

"Do not forbid, that which you can not prohibit."

What we do have is the Supreme Leader saying multiple times that Iran has no desire to make nuclear weapons. Of course this leaves open the loophole that many countries have that they may be "forced" to make nuclear weapons to deter a threat. Such is foreign relations.

If you outlaw nukes, only nukes will have outlaws.

Wait . . . that fails utterly. :/\\!!

I can't say I actively want any further countries to obtain a nuclear stockpile, but I'd be tentatively okay with any modern, secular Western style democracy obtaining them.

And if you have a robust nuclear power program and any means of weaponized delivery, you pretty much are a nuclear power. It's just a matter of loading the bullets into the gun. You could actually consider Japan, Canada, Italy, and possibly other countries Nuclear Powers from that point of view, in that they could have a reasonable nuclear offensive capability in a matter of weeks if so desired. Japan, for instance, could be a major nuclear power overnight given it's nuclear power production and advanced space program. (It's primary space launch vehicle is for all practical purposes a copy of the American Peacekeeper ICBM, and many people have speculated that it was adopted for the Japanese Space Program for just that reason.) However, given Japan's previous bad experience with nukes I could see where that politically could never happen.

For the record, I am in favor of nonproliferation, but the nuclear genie is out of the bottle and the bottle has been smashed to a million pieces. Absent the development of an even greater weapon of mass destruction, I don't see total disarmament coming any time soon.

The Mid East has been a problem since God was a little boy. :wah:

Why you hate America? :hmph:

'cuz they invented disco and

http://i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/2...dToSquare=true

Pretty sure Hitler invented disco. :hmmm:

Source: This entirely accurate photograph:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G2gHmllgS-...er-dancing.gif

Then we'll go with the back-up US atrocity.

Birthplace of Charlie Sheen! :wah:

http://i.imgur.com/GeXQlEI.gif

*Looks at the location*
NAZI!!1111

@Torplexed: Hey! I like Charlie Sheen!

I'm a Valeria Golino fan myself. :) What was this thread about again?

http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/201...up_640_109.jpg

That accent.

http://i.imgur.com/bA0gQ.jpg