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Cybermat47 03-25-15 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2300823)
GI, VC even nazi = Human beings

Yes... and?

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GI's that murdered civilians = Prosecuted and imprisoned by their country
VC and nazi that murdered civilians = Rewarded and feted by their countries

Yeah I do make a distinction.
It doesn't matter how they're treated by their countries afterwards. What matters is that they committed war crimes in the first place.

And by the way, Nazis have been prosecuted and imprisoned in Germany for several decades now.

August 03-25-15 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2300863)
Yes... and?



It doesn't matter how they're treated by their countries afterwards. What matters is that they committed war crimes in the first place.

And by the way, Nazis have been prosecuted and imprisoned in Germany for several decades now.

My point is that any army ever created is going to have an element who will commit war crimes. The difference is how these actions are treated. Are they outlawed or are they encouraged? That is the measure of any human society.

So yeah I think the far more extensive and deliberate attacks upon civilians by the VC deserve mention in a discussion about My Lai.

nikimcbee 03-25-15 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2300872)
My point is that any army ever created is going to have an element who will commit war crimes. The difference is how these actions are treated. Are they outlawed or are they encouraged? That is the measure of any human society.

So yeah I think the far more extensive and deliberate attacks upon civilians by the VC deserve mention in a discussion about My Lai.

I found this interesting:
(warning, has graphic images.)
http://www.psywarrior.com/VietCongAtrocity.html

Another article.
http://uncensoredhistory.blogspot.co...-vietcong.html


War is hell.

Cybermat47 03-25-15 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2300872)
So yeah I think the far more extensive and deliberate attacks upon civilians by the VC deserve mention in a discussion about My Lai.

I agree.

But you seem to think that the OP was attacking America. He wasn't. He was condemning the men who carried out the My Lai massacre, who just happened to be American.

It doesn't matter what country you're from; what matters is what you've done.

August 03-26-15 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47 (Post 2300889)
But you seem to think that the OP was attacking America. He wasn't.

I apologize if it came off sounding that way to you but that was never my belief. I may not always agree with Bilge Rat but I have great respect for his opinions.

Platapus 03-26-15 07:34 PM

Bonitas non est pessimis esse meliorem.
("To be good, it is not enough to be better than the worst.") —Lucius Annaeus Seneca

August 03-26-15 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2301160)
Bonitas non est pessimis esse meliorem.
("To be good, it is not enough to be better than the worst.") —Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Good doesn't mean perfect. Wars are fought by fallible human beings under enormous stress. There will always be this kind of thing to some degree.


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