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Red Devil 05-22-14 10:55 AM

I do know that the Japanese, for quite some time, thought no sub could go below 200 feet.

razark 05-22-14 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2209822)
Sorry I missed this the first time.

No problem. It wasn't really directed to you, but to the room in general, anyway.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2209822)
No, I don't know for certain, but I suspect the latter.

That does make sense. With the codebreaking efforts, perhaps someone knew and passed information down the line, suggesting strongly that below 200 feet was a good place to hide?

Red Devil 05-23-14 02:21 PM

Gato Balao and Porpoise could do 300, and a bit. Tench 400 as I recall.

Admiral Halsey 05-23-14 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 2207144)
Be funny to set them in game to drop at 30ft per sec. Someone should do it with TMO and see how fun it is.

Well for one TMO would become impossible at that point.

merc4ulfate 05-23-14 07:25 PM

Well if they are set to drop 30 ft/S then I'll just stay shallow and let them blow up below me.

Admiral Halsey 05-23-14 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by merc4ulfate (Post 2210307)
Well if they are set to drop 30 ft/S then I'll just stay shallow and let them blow up below me.

That brings an interesting point up. What happens when a Depth Charge hits bottom in game? I tend to stay away from the shallows at all possible times(Thu why I normally do Pearl Based careers) so i've never see what happens.

Sailor Steve 05-23-14 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil (Post 2210250)
Gato Balao and Porpoise could do 300, and a bit. Tench 400 as I recall.

The listed test depth and what they actually "could do" are not the same. American boats were expected to do 1-1/2 times the test depth, and sometimes did more. The Balao class was listed as having a test depth of 400 feet. USS Pampanito went below 600 feet on her first patrol.

razark 05-23-14 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey (Post 2210314)
What happens when a Depth Charge hits bottom in game?

Based on what I saw last night, the campaign ends. :nope:

I got caught in the shallows, and it appears that the charge dropped through the sea floor, and then exploded.


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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2210318)
The listed test depth and what they actually "could do" are not the same. American boats were expected to do 1-1/2 times the test depth, and sometimes did more.

I recall one story of a fleet boat in the '50s or '60s that lost power, and was later calculated to have gone below 1000 feet. The pressure hull was damaged enough that the boat was scrapped afterwards, but still not bad for a 25-20 year old boat rated for 400.

TorpX 05-23-14 10:22 PM

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Be funny to set them in game to drop at 30ft per sec. Someone should do it with TMO and see how fun it is.


Well for one TMO would become impossible at that point.
That's what I was thinking.



Apart from making life harder (and shorter) for our subs, there are other things to consider. If the charges sink too fast, the ships could end up blowing themselves up. They needed a certain amount of time to reach a safe distance.

Does anyone know if there is a minimum depth the game uses?

Admiral Halsey 05-23-14 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by razark (Post 2210323)
I recall one story of a fleet boat in the '50s or '60s that lost power, and was later calculated to have gone below 1000 feet. The pressure hull was damaged enough that the boat was scrapped afterwards, but still not bad for a 25-20 year old boat rated for 400.

That would be the USS Chopper.

razark 05-23-14 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey (Post 2210336)
That would be the USS Chopper.

That would be the one. I thought it started with a "C", but the only name that came to mind was the Copperfin.

Red Devil 05-24-14 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by razark (Post 2210323)
Based on what I saw last night, the campaign ends. :nope:

I got caught in the shallows, and it appears that the charge dropped through the sea floor, and then exploded.

Well, thats one way to sand blast the barnacles off the hull :doh:

Red Devil 05-24-14 06:30 AM

In das boot, the uboat sat on the Med floor at around 700m, until the british sailed away.

Sailor Steve 05-24-14 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil (Post 2210396)
In das boot, the uboat sat on the Med floor at around 700m, until the british sailed away.

No, it was 280m, which translates to 918 feet. 700m would be almost 3000 feet, not possible even in today's submarines.

In May 1941 U-109 was estimated to have survived reaching 300m, but just barely.

Red Devil 05-24-14 11:26 AM

Sorry sailor, you are absolutely right. As they said it i presume it was in feet, but thought, being german, meters. But its been a while. *glug*

I do recall in Walkers book, Walker RN that the U202 'went deep sir' - but unaccountable depth. They recognised the fact that their charges would not go that deep. Instead Walker said, we wait, he must come up at 0002 hrs; and he did! Shelled and sunk. Walker was an expert in ASW even when it was unfashionable.


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