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Skybird 04-05-14 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AndreasT (Post 2194365)
And I was so hoping they wouldn't lose the whole season in the Bundesliga. Oh well maybe next year.


Their last defeat dates back to October 28th, 2012.

One and a half seasons undefeated - what else do you want? :)

BTW, I do not take the win against Manchester for granted, nor am I certain that they again would triumph over the Spanish clubs.

Jimbuna 04-06-14 08:35 AM

I doubt we'll see an English club in the final this year.

Jimbuna 04-09-14 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2194576)
I doubt we'll see an English club in the final this year.

We may yet, Chelsea won last night and Dortmund were knocked out.

Only Bayern left, could the Germans be losing their grip?

the_tyrant 04-09-14 11:23 AM

Looking at the guys who put their faith in David Moyes to win the Champions league, all I can do is roll and laugh :har:

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...45&oe=534737F9

Jimbuna 04-10-14 05:36 AM

Man Utd were well beaten in the end...their dream of victory lasted only 22 seconds.

BossMark 04-10-14 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2195932)
Man Utd were well beaten in the end...their dream of victory lasted only 22 seconds.

Moyes 22 seconds of glory :har::har::har:

Skybird 04-10-14 07:21 AM

Actually it was a decent match, and Manchester had its chances. I enjoyed watching it.

The Bavarians became nervous a bit after one half passed and them getting stuck every time. It explains why Guardiola decided for such a hyper-offensive line-up - he knew what was coming. The 0:1 for MU was a dream goal. The Bavarian answer just some seconds later also was a brilliant take, however. That they took the 0:1 and were left totally unimpressed, says something about the team'S moral and self-understanding.

I still think the tournament is absolutely open. The two Spanish teams very well could beat Munich. However, not without getting a tough fight. All in all I think Munich is the best team, but not by such a margin that the show runs all by itself. They could end up unlucky. Real to me is the biggest hurdle of the three. Either them win this year's title, or Munich.

Jimbuna 04-10-14 07:22 AM

From now on, when a Manchester United fan talks about the 'Munich Tragedy', you are going to have to ask "which one?"

Skybird 04-11-14 07:11 AM

The CL final comes early this year: Munich meets Real Madrid in semi-finals. Maybe the two currently best club teams on Earth - absolutely unpredictable outcome.

Chelsea meets Atlético Madrid. I think Atlético is having the edge here.

The Spanish teams still are desperately overindebted by many hundreds of millions of Euros, however, and the British clubs often live by the massive financial injections of foreign club owners. Munich economically is absolutely superior in this regard, basing its top world-class financial situation on solid economic management instead of debts, oligarchs, and credit. If economic management would be a criterion for winning titles, Munich would dwarf almost all European clubs, although in yearly turnover it only is fourth rank behind Spanish clubs. Still, the higher turnovers by the Spaniards did not save them from accumulating debts as high as 500 million, plus tax debts as high as almost 200 million. With Real being the most expensive sports team world-wide (estimated total value beyond two billion), one would expect them to dominate by a huge margin. But as Abramovich already learned in Chelsea: big spending does not automatically mean big partying. :D

I'm with the Bavarians, therefore. Not becauue they are a German club, but because their team is en par with any other - while they manage their business far better than all others. They are self-sustainable (and that earns my sympathy). You cannot say that about the three others.

Jimbuna 04-11-14 11:14 AM

I was surprised to see my local club 20th in the list of largest revenues and we also have zero debt.

TarJak 04-11-14 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2196447)
I was surprised to see my local club 20th in the list of largest revenues and we also have zero debt.

I wouldn't have thought South Shields FC would have drawn crowds that large.:O:

http://southshieldsfc.info/

the_tyrant 04-11-14 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2196381)
The CL final comes early this year: Munich meets Real Madrid in semi-finals. Maybe the two currently best club teams on Earth - absolutely unpredictable outcome.

Chelsea meets Atlético Madrid. I think Atlético is having the edge here.

The Spanish teams still are desperately overindebted by many hundreds of millions of Euros, however, and the British clubs often live by the massive financial injections of foreign club owners. Munich economically is absolutely superior in this regard, basing its top world-class financial situation on solid economic management instead of debts, oligarchs, and credit. If economic management would be a criterion for winning titles, Munich would dwarf almost all European clubs, although in yearly turnover it only is fourth rank behind Spanish clubs. Still, the higher turnovers by the Spaniards did not save them from accumulating debts as high as 500 million, plus tax debts as high as almost 200 million. With Real being the most expensive sports team world-wide (estimated total value beyond two billion), one would expect them to dominate by a huge margin. But as Abramovich already learned in Chelsea: big spending does not automatically mean big partying. :D

I'm with the Bavarians, therefore. Not becauue they are a German club, but because their team is en par with any other - while they manage their business far better than all others. They are self-sustainable (and that earns my sympathy). You cannot say that about the three others.


For the longest time, I've been preaching the fact that soon, association football would be ruled by the Bundesliga, Premier League, and the MLS.

People always argue about whether a player is over paid or a steal. It is actually very easy to figure it out, if a player gets paid X, but makes the team Y (Y>X), he isn't over paid, and vice versa. This is business school 101, first page of a finance textbook.

Yet too many teams are glory hounds, they sell out their future for a trophy today. In fact, there are teams who spend more than 100% of their revenue on salaries!

I can see Serie A, La Liga, and potentially some other leagues collapse soon. In fact, last year, there was this spanish lower league player who already said that he would like to play in the MLS, as he hears from his buddy who plays in the MLS that their checks don't bounce!

Jimbuna 04-12-14 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 2196547)
I wouldn't have thought South Shields FC would have drawn crowds that large.:O:

http://southshieldsfc.info/

Well Shields can score a goal on occasion which is more than can currently be said of the TOON :)

Skybird 04-14-14 02:48 AM

Has Munich lost its rythm? They have lost AGAIN in the league. National cup match is next. They getter get their minds and spirits back, else Real will eat them for picnic.

Jimbuna 04-14-14 05:01 AM

Just a wee hiccup in league terms, possibly resting players for the Real game.


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