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GreyBeard 02-19-14 07:56 AM

All movies take liberties with truth and accuracy, including the aforementioned two. It's called suspension of disbelief. The bigger the tale they tell and make it appear believable/real at the same time the more profit they rake in.

BigWalleye 02-19-14 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GreyBeard (Post 2176360)
All movies take liberties with truth and accuracy, including the aforementioned two. It's called suspension of disbelief. The bigger the tale they tell and make it appear believable/real at the same time the more profit they rake in.

Which is why any movie except a documentary should not be assumed to be a valid reference source for historical research.

And yet, for example, the periscope graticle used by most SH3 GUIs is borrowed from Das Boot, not from a surviving example of a WW2 vintage U-boat periscope. I suspect that's because it's what gamers expect to see.

GreyBeard 02-19-14 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye (Post 2176378)
Which is why any movie except a documentary should not be assumed to be a valid reference source for historical research.

Even documentaries can be tainted. Not telling the whole truth is not the same as lying, but it has a similar effect. Some are biased due to things like politics, for example, and have a tendency to express a particular viewpoint.

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye (Post 2176378)
And yet, for example, the periscope graticle used by most SH3 GUIs is borrowed from Das Boot, not from a surviving example of a WW2 vintage U-boat periscope. I suspect that's because it's what gamers expect to see.

It probably looks better. :har:

BigWalleye 02-19-14 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GreyBeard (Post 2176395)
Even documentaries can be tainted. Not telling the whole truth is not the same as lying, but it has a similar effect. Some are biased due to things like politics, for example, and have a tendency to express a particular viewpoint.

Of course. You make my point.

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It probably looks better.
On the face of it, that doesn't seem to square well with your sig.

GreyBeard 02-19-14 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye (Post 2176412)
.....On the face of it, that doesn't seem to square well with your sig.

My sig? A quote from a blockbuster! Couldn't be more appropriate for this thread! :D :rotfl2: :woot:

Aktungbby 02-19-14 01:17 PM

Even documentaries can be tainted
 
:sign_yeah:

BigWalleye 02-19-14 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GreyBeard (Post 2176463)
My sig? A quote from a blockbuster! Couldn't be more appropriate for this thread! :D :rotfl2: :woot:

So you don't think that basing details of a "simulation" on what is depicted in a movie instead of historical evidence just because "it looks better" is BS. Interesting point of view.

Jimbuna 02-19-14 02:39 PM

Opinions, beliefs, points of view...we all have them as does every other forum I've come across.

BigWalleye 02-19-14 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2176502)
Opinions, beliefs, points of view...we all have them as does every other forum I've come across.

Yep, and at SubSim, AFAIK, we don't laugh at those we disagree with.

Jimbuna 02-19-14 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye (Post 2176523)
Yep, and at SubSim, AFAIK, we don't laugh at those we disagree with.

I'm not sure I haven't seen that on occasion during my time here but often everything hinges on the context of what one is trying to communicate.

BigWalleye 02-19-14 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2176551)
I'm not sure I haven't seen that on occasion during my time here but often everything hinges on the context of what one is trying to communicate.

Everything hinges on context, doesn't it?

Jimbuna 02-19-14 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigWalleye (Post 2176561)
Everything hinges on context, doesn't it?

That and individual perception.


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