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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper
(Post 2147709)
I guess I'm not listening to radical enough feminists as I've haven't heard a single word about establishing a matriarchy.
I'm also wondering what that tremendous abuse it is you talk about. If there's a push in schools or in general, the education system, to get boys and men to accept girls and women as their "masters", the radical feminists are doing a very poor job in pushing their agenda.
That ever recurring theme of erosion of family values, destroying of families, letting mothers not be mothers. What you see as an attack on families or mothers, I see as giving them a choice to do what suits them best. It's not like anybody is forcing them to give their child(ren) into day care. If the mother can live with her choice, who's to tell her she's wrong? That's also one thing feminism is fighting for, not shaming women for their choices.
Can't comment on that letter, as it didn't make the news here and I have not read when you posted it, maybe you could provide the link or the name of the politician?
How about some citations? I mean what you wrote sounds patently absurd, I would like to know who, in all seriousness, makes such a claim, which could only be proven if you had free reign to try that out.
Feminists say..., yeah all of them or just the most radical? You know to be a feminist, or member of any other group that fights for a cause, you don't have to agree with all views of the most radical to call yourself one of them.
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You really haven't spent enough time around or met enough radical feminists. I, on the other hand, was raised by one. I may love my mother but shes an insufferable person. Among a laundry list of deplorable character traits and behavior patterns, she always used to rant on and on and on about how evil men were and how all we cared about was our penises, and did indeed suggest that woman would be far more capable if there WAS a matriarchy. Whenever a viagra commercial came on she got all pissed off and started ranting about how the "old men with smurf pills" thought they can still sleep with 20 year olds and old men are perverts yadda yadda yadda. The sad part is that im not even embellishing what she did, she
really did rant about that crap.
And if one was inclined to create a tumblr, you'd see the infinite stupidity of the many, MANY self-righteous, pretentious activists (that includes ALOT of feminists) that go around on tumblr and do nothing but rant and criticize and hate and spew hypocritical bull.
So yes, radical feminists are larger in number than you think. And based upon my many personal encounters, they tend to be insufferable people who deliberately misinterpret, misconstrue, over-analyze, hyperbolize, embellish, and blow things way out of proportion so as to paint society as this grotesque patriarchy whose goal is to oppress woman.
Those are the kinds of people i do not tolerate in the slightest. Feminism is supposed to be about woman getting fair and equal treatment, not about establishing dominance or shaming men. Many of the "problems" that these radicals cry bloody murder about are non-issues that are twisted to push the idea that woman are oh so oppressed still in this day and age, when the vast majority of these "problems" affect both men AND woman. An example would be the many times ive heard woman complain about how fashion models hold woman to impossible standards like size zero waists and such, and how that standard is a product of our "patriarchal society", when men are similarly held to the standard that you have to have a six pack and wicked biceps to be considered "good looking" in a general sense.
The feminists i respect are the ones that shoot for moderate and equal goals, such as helping fight domestic abuse against woman, and an increase in woman's self-respect so they dont get used and abused. We should learn to embrace the slight differences between men and women as unique characteristics, and that no gender is above the other.