Now to some serious discussion

If USA goes bankruptcy it will hit the International economy very hard. There's no one that can say what's going to happen, except it will be some kind of cascade of effect.

Markus

Give it a few weeks. Then they'll debate the budget ceiling again. Judging by current events, we should have a regular 3 ring circus in mid October. Wholesome family entertainment for all.

Oh goodie!

In the headlines in yesterdays news it said

Panic before closing time

Markus

Hey!!! Who killed the power????!!!!

If you are an American paying you taxes like me then the shut down will mean more taxes as it costs money shut the government down like this.You guys complain about the spending then then you joke about a shutdown that will cost in the you even more money.:hmm2:

@Armistead all national parks will be closed to the public during the shut down.Also in the past shutdowns there was money to pay back the military who do not stop going to work they just stop getting paid during a shut down this time there is no guarantee that they will be able to repay the armed forces for doing their duties while also having families to feed and bills to pay but no money for ? amount of time.That will do wonders for morale and will mean that many members will decide not to reenlist next time their term comes up.Now it would be a good thing for politicians not to want to return to the job but people skilled in many military jobs are hard to find and you do not want to push those people away.

You know, I've had this bad feeling for a couple years now, that something really bad is going to happen on a national level. I have no way to substantiate that feeling, I don't know what that "something" is, I'm not even going to say that this feeling is correct, and will even dismiss it as just paranoia because I can give no rational argument for it because it's just a bad feeling. However, I do find myself wishing that "it", whatever "it" is, would just happen already so we can get it over with.

If our country wasn't so polarized, our government wasn't so dysfunctional, and we weren't already so far in the hole, I would probably care if it shut down, as it is, i find myself lacking any concern. We are so far in debt already, the costs of a shutdown is probably but a drop in the bucket.

Aside from that, I don't think the people running our government are capable of any real solutions. They'll just kick the can down the road, same as always, and the deficit will continue to grow.

The military will be paid. Shut it down. Let the world see what a dysfunctional gov't that is running the US. Let this be their legacy. All of them.

Yep, they can print more non value money, increase the debt limit again and the dollar is devalued further.

They could all drop dead and rot in hell, the entire lot of them.

See that makes no sense to me even if you see that the government is screwed up by law you must pay the taxes it levies upon you so this is going to cost you and me and everyone more money.So apathy is not an option when money comes from your pocket unless you are a nihilist which I am just about 100% certain you are not.

I see this as divide and conquer you say the people are so polarized with this I highly disagree the ones being lead by the pied pipers are but they are actually the minority.If you really looked you would see that most people even of different stripes who may not agree on all things want to work together it can be done.The problem is that you have pundits smashing size 12 shoes like Nikita Khrushchev and they get all the attention.

The Main attraction distraction is what I call it.All the while the ones that benefit from all of this laugh all the way to the bank.

Does anyone of us really know what the effect would be?

Markus

Republicans offered a reasonable comprosmise, drop the medical equipment tax(which is a big part of the problem in the ACA) and the individual mandate(which is pretty anti american in spirit, federal government compelling citizens to purchase insurance or face a "tax") Democrats said NO to both.That right there says they are( as we know) the bane of liberty.They just refuse to drop a tax and an unfair mandate(while delaying the business mandate!) so let it shut down, who cares.

Sure, shut it down and ruin the nation's credit and economy. Force untold numbers of people to lose their jobs and homes. All so you can prove an ideological political point.

I guess it's too much to ask motherhumpers to stop humping their mothers for the sake of the nation.

Markus,

Two weeks ago my place of employment called our healthcare insurance company. The simple question was asked. "What will our new premiums be under the new ACA?" The answer was simpler yet. "We don't know.", was the reply. As I noted above, many elderly are getting letters advising they are no long insured. These letters are coming from AETNA and a few other insurance companies. This is just the tip of the iceberg in my opinion.

The govt has shut down before. Nothing happened.