Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2102504)

You are ALL COMMUNISTS I tell ya, I seen the secret memo about your nefarious plot to take control of the treehouse.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2102506)

I have read that before and this was nothing more than a hit piece, author was wrong, going after Goldwater and the Conservative movement or the "pseudo conservative" movement as called it. I am sorry, but conservatives have been proven right.

Originally Posted by Subnuts (Post 2102496)

Still waiting for Everyone to the Left of Me Is A Communist: Why People Who Don't Think Like Me Really Piss Me Off.

Political books need to have more honest titles.

Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 2102509)

Hmm...it's almost as if Bub never actually read the book, but just read the first review on Amazon and then wrote this post making it seem like he read the book...hmm....

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2IIP02...55&store=books

Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2102516)

Young man, that is no deflection.
That is treating the content of the OP with all the merit it deserves.


I hope you are not suggesting bubbles is just making stuff up:03:

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2102506)

I have read that before and this was nothing more than a hit piece, author was wrong, going after Goldwater and the Conservative movement or the "pseudo conservative" movement as called it. I am sorry, but conservatives have been proven right.

Those who opposed the new deal saw the danger of that much government intervention and power, they knew the government would never cede the power again.They knew in the short term it would not help(it did not, WW II saved the economy) then when they argued against the great society they were said to be heartless, when they opposed the civil rights act of 64 they were called racist.They opposed it because the act was garbage and the saw the ramifications of such things as affirmative action.Did the oppose this because they are racist? Sure, some did. Just like now, many of the things passed by non whites is because they are racist.The push for "immigration reform" is racist. Were all racist? No.They saw the big picture, giving the federal government one inch is dangerous, because they will then take a mile.

Now fast forward all these years later.We have a country in debt due to the welfare state, we have a government with power it was never supposed to have.Spying on people, torturing people, prosecuting journalists under the espionage act, simply because they are mad about their crimes being exposed, attempting to control our healthcare, socially engineering the military and society(attempting to) and all the other evil that comes from a large, bureaucracy that is not constrained.

McCarthy went overboard and lost support but he was absolutely right about subversion by communists and other far left types.Goldwater was right about many things and if american people would not have been so easily duped(like they were in 2008 and 12) we would have a better country now, not the cesspool we currently have.

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 2102525)

You know you have just proven Hostadter's point, right? Of course you don't; you haven't read the book. You won't read it either because you are happy with your paranoia. In other words, you are the problem.

And by the way "nuh-uh" is still not a counter argument. Go. Read. Learn. Then talk. But read and learn first.

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 2102534)

No I did not prove his point.Basically, he said that there is no threat, that those who talk about communists etc, the conservatives are just paranoid, crazy whatever.What a great way to go after the opposition. I don't know enough about the author to know if he was communist etc himself or if he honestly just did not see the threat. The problem with so many people is they refuse to see the threat, its complacency at it's worst.

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 2102539)

The reason, dear Bubblehead, that you are so bad at this sort of thing is because you refuse to read the material. If you want to be some sort of great polemicist, which is what seems to your goal, then you have to do your homework. You cannot be lazy.

You are commenting on a book that you have clearly never read. Read it. Then try to talk about it, because you have now, for a second time, proven the author's point. Again, this is why you get beat in these sort of arguments. Your base of knowledge simply isn't wide enough, and you are getting to the end of the age bracket where youth and inexperience serves as an excuse.