Yes, I understand it was struck down. :up: Funny part here, NY City and NY State play the roll of not being one in the same. Like the guy who says he is not from NY. He lives in Brooklyn. :haha: I was a Long Islander until 73.

I believe in both as well. The rest, well, make poor interpretations of both Constitution and Bill of Rights.

You are no nuttier than the rest of us.

Guns are only part of a larger picture.

Yes, there is a bigger picture it is called control, problem their broke, they'll look to you to take your wealth since they are convinced that it doesn't belong to you, I was wondering what this uthopia would look like, I never thought too see it here,, didn't Hitler do this in the late 1930's, and wasn't this going on in communist Russia, what will be next,, ohh, Johnny has more food and money than I, now where did I put that phone ???? The Consitution wasn't written for public safety it was written to protect your Liberty. I , say ban it all, just go ahead and go nuts, knock yourselves out I'd rather be a criminal than a traitor.

The question I have is: Will a telephone tip serve as justification for issuing a search warrant?

That would be scary. :yep:

Don't give the local constabulary my number because they would have a field day......"Hey, he trained with us" :)

Probable cause, will be the way through your door, since you are guilty of a crime, harboring an unlawful weapon, I had a nice chat with a cuban freind of mine, he told me a nice story, how people spy on each other in cuba, the government hires people in a community to spy on their neighbors, people could be jailed or shot for just eating meat.. welcome to utopia

People spy on their neighbor here as well. They usual are called "Community Associations" were members pay a monthly fee so their neighbors have someone to report to when another member does not pull in their trashcans after 0900 or the paint on their front door is peeling requiring fresh paint of the proper color to match the other homes in the neighborhood. The folks report these "crimes" to the Community Association. The groups normally have community laws and bylaws to which they can cite when necessary. If said offending member does not comply, a letter from the law office representing the Community Association is forthcoming. Sometimes escalating to court appearances. We can say that most are not "shot" for the offenses but after the ringer the Community Association puts you through perhaps being shot would have been better. Welcome to utopia that comes with a coupon book of 12 payments per year so you may have your neighbor spy on you and possibly providing some sort of litigation for you down the road over the color paint on your shudders. :03:

Well said, but an HOA doesn't have the right to enter a home and conduct a search, and a person has a choice to live in such a community, which I choose not too, but what are you going to do when a dozen armed thugs show up at your door with a search warrant and say their here to look for illegal weapons and by then there will probably be ooodles of things that might be banned, maybe the Bible, history books, you have to much food in your pantry, just because your next door neighbor doesn't like the color of your house, I forgot to add, from what my cuban freind told me you also have to have a permit from the government to eat meat. Welcome to paradice.

Very true. People are provided the rules and accept or don't. However, yes, a neighbor could alert the police to a potential issue at a neighbors house. Legitimate or not. Plenty of folks call the cops on neighbors because their dog is barking. Cops spend a lot of time on domestic nonsense and not hard crime. What will I do when a dozen armed thugs bust through my door? Well, to be honest, I have no reason to worry about this issue. I'm up to nothing other than paying my taxes. I do not associate myself with people that might have experienced or could experience a dozen thugs busting through their front door for whatever activity they are up to. Furthermore, when the cops run my name they will see I have not gotten a speeding ticket since 1993. No other infractions of any kind. There really is no reason to send out SWAT to "round me up."

As far as the permit for meat in Cuba. I feel for the guy. But you know, he is probably eating healthier than the majority of Americans.

All true but it's the reward aspect of this I find repulsive. If your worried about your neighbor having an illegal gun do you need a reward to get the motivation to react? Maybe we should just report all our neighbors in a fishing expedition because there could be money in it. :sunny:

Don't think you are completely immune to it though. There have been many instances of no knock warrants being served at the wrong address.

Some examples from Wikipedia:

I did not state I'm immune. Odds are unlikely SWAT will be busting my door down. I do not lose sleep over it.

Wikipedia: Is a site that anyone can make entries of any nature. But I'm alright with what you quoted. These do occur. But again, you kind of drive my point home with yubba.

Wouldn't that be something? Sheesh... I think the cops would be questioning the guy who cried wolf on all his neighbors but they came up empty handed. I'm inclined to believe there is repercussions for just pressing the golden button.

Well I started to post individual news articles but found the wiki article had a nice set of examples. There are many many more not included.

I do agree however that the likelihood of this happening to you or me is low but given the huge increase in no knock raids...

...the possibility is increasing.

Oh, I agree. It does happen certainly. The possibility is increasing, I would agree. Only because of the multiple changes in how security of the country is accessed and handled. It will only get worse as the rumor mills and bad media practices continue.

But let me ask you, of the 40 bystanders, was this some sort of drug house raid we normally see on Cops or was this Mr/Mrs USA in their apple pie eating home in the suburbs?