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AVGWarhawk 03-05-13 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 2020516)
Drones, Police Infantry, armored vehicles, secret courts, detention without trial, warrant-less searches. Yeah you must be right, nothing to see here...
Drones, a new tech. What is the difference between a drone and a police helicopter? One manned, the other not. What is the point of this comment? Infantry? A bunch of cops together usually is for riots. Riots have occurred for decades. Watts comes to mind. Detention without trial. Do you have a particular case in mind? Warrant-less searches? Gone of for decades. You are painting a horse a different color. It is however the same horse.

August 03-05-13 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2020526)
Drones, a new tech. What is the difference between a drone and a police helicopter? One manned, the other not.

What is the point of this comment? Infantry? A bunch of cops together usually is for riots. Riots have occurred for decades. Watts comes to mind. Detention without trial. Do you have a particular case in mind? Warrant-less searches? Gone of for decades. You are painting a horse a different color. It is however the same horse.
Doesn't matter how long they have gotten away with it. I see it all as links in the same chain. Apparently you don't.

Betonov 03-05-13 12:29 PM
It's a PR stunt, like our police showed of their new water cannon and sang praises about how effective and modern we will be fighting riots....

It was used for 10 years as a mobile garden hose. Saw some action in december, used against 5 rioters.

TLAM Strike 03-05-13 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2020485)
Very soon there will be Huey armed to the teeth for crowd control.

Naw they will use modified Gazelles.

Catfish 03-05-13 02:02 PM
Don't forget the estimated 30,000 drones patroling the US, in the next years :hmmm:

They will be used everywhere of course, not only in the US, for whatever purpose ..



There's one advantage however, with all the eMail traffic and surveillance videos to check in the US alone by NSA, CIA, FBI, whatever, there will never be unemployment again :-?

AVGWarhawk 03-05-13 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by August (Post 2020532)
Doesn't matter how long they have gotten away with it. I see it all as links in the same chain. Apparently you don't.
August, I work daily with the TSA, FEMA, DHS and the other entities encompassed within. There is no chain sir.

AVGWarhawk 03-05-13 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 2020551)
I watched Blue Thunder in the movie theaters. That will date me for sure. :haha:

The whisper mode scene with chick in the window. Sweet. :yeah:

AVGWarhawk 03-05-13 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2020534)
It's a PR stunt, like our police showed of their new water cannon and sang praises about how effective and modern we will be fighting riots....

It was used for 10 years as a mobile garden hose. Saw some action in december, used against 5 rioters.
:rotfl2::rotfl2::har:

Platapus 03-05-13 04:34 PM
Although it tends to kill the tin-foil hat conspiracy angle, one should remember that ICE has offices overseas.

According to this document

http://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/OIG_10-38_Jan10.pdf

Quote:

Vehicle Acquisitions for Field Offices
Prior to FY 2008, individual attaché offices completed the
procurement process for all vehicles overseas. After learning that
a senior ICE OIA official at one post was able to steer $2.8 million
in sole source U.S. government contracts to a foreign company for
purchasing and armoring vehicles, ICE OIA implemented changes
to its vehicle acquisition process. Specifically, ICE OIA
headquarters now conducts the acquisition of armored vehicles for
all overseas offices and sole source purchases are not allowed. All
armored vehicles must now be purchased and armored in the
United States and then shipped to the foreign post
That's what the armored vehicles are purchased for.

BTW, in FY 2008 when G W Bush was in office, ICE spent several million dollars in acquiring armored vehicles. Where was the "concern" then?

Platapus 03-05-13 04:41 PM
FYI

ICE has 71 offices in 47 countries.

http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/120...shingtondc.htm

geetrue 03-05-13 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2020777)
FYI

ICE has 71 offices in 47 countries.

http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/120...shingtondc.htm

I love ICE especially when they are on Border Wars shows.

They look very professional more so than Homeland Security, are you sure they call themselves DHS?

I never heard that one before.

Why don't they save some money here and use President Obama's old Canadian built campaign buses lol

http://www.truthorfiction.com/images/Greyhound1b.jpg

The Truth: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/greyhound1.htm
Quote:
The Federal Government acquired two new buses that cost $1.1 Million each. The basic touring coaches were built in Canada but they were purchased from a dealer in Tennessee who specially modified them to accommodate the President or candidates under the protection of the Secret Service.

Stealhead 03-05-13 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by geetrue (Post 2020809)
I love ICE especially when they are on Border Wars shows.

They look very professional more so than Homeland Security, are you sure they call themselves DHS?

I never heard that one before.

Why don't they save some money here and use President Obama's old Canadian built campaign buses lol

http://www.truthorfiction.com/images/Greyhound1b.jpg

The Truth: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/g/greyhound1.htm

I am certain that they are a part of DHS: http://www.ice.gov/about/overview/

geetrue 03-05-13 05:36 PM
Lots of DHS's out there I didn't know about:

Related Searches
Learn something new everyday ... that's what I'll do to stay away from the VA second floor
( that's where they keep the you know what's)

Stealhead 03-05-13 05:44 PM
Those are for various states Department of Human Services and are not related to the Department of Homeland Security same acronym different meaning.


Here is a list of what agencies are a part of the Department of Homeland Security top of page right hand side under "Child Agencies" :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...eland_Security

Never mind you are making fun of yourself in your last post I believe.

geetrue 03-05-13 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 2020825)
Those are for various states Department of Human Services and are not related to the Department of Homeland Security same acronym different meaning.


Here is a list of what agencies are a part of the Department of Homeland Security top of page right hand side under "Child Agencies" :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...eland_Security

Never mind you are making fun of yourself in your last post I believe.

Yes, I was making fun of myself ... I'm kind of old, but you sir have pointed me in the right direction.

This is why I just call them the Dr. Pepper agencies

Quote:
the creation of DHS constituted the most significant government reorganization since the Cold War,[ and the most substantial reorganization of federal agencies since the National Security Act of 1947, which placed the different military departments under a secretary of defense and created the National Security Council and Central Intelligence Agency.

DHS also constitutes the most diverse merger of federal functions and responsibilities, incorporating 22 government agencies into a single organization.


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