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mookiemookie 11-09-12 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1958793)
Like someone in here has already said, the people have spoken,,live with it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio yes the people have spoken.:har::har::har:

You realize that the TracFone program was started under George W. Bush? And the Lifeline program to provide discounts on phone service to the poor was instituted under Reagan?

http://web.archive.org/web/200808160...34/detail.html

Tribesman 11-09-12 11:10 AM

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You realize that the TracFone program was started under George W. Bush? And the Lifeline program to provide discounts on phone service to the poor was instituted under Reagan?
But that is facts

Takeda Shingen 11-09-12 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1958794)
You realize that the TracFone program was started under George W. Bush? And the Lifeline program to provide discounts on phone service to the poor was instituted under Reagan?

http://web.archive.org/web/200808160...34/detail.html

Stop clouding this thread with your facts.

AVGWarhawk 11-09-12 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1958794)
You realize that the TracFone program was started under George W. Bush? And the Lifeline program to provide discounts on phone service to the poor was instituted under Reagan?

http://web.archive.org/web/200808160...34/detail.html

It's all Bush's fault. We know this because it has been said for the better part of the past 4 years. It must be true! :up:

Takeda Shingen 11-09-12 11:39 AM

In the case of TracFone, yes it is Bush's fault.

AVGWarhawk 11-09-12 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1958807)
In the case of TracFone, yes it is Bush's fault.

As well as global warming. Um, is a Tracfone a fault? It is a program that helps those in need. I'm certain the program is abused. What program offered by the gov't is not abused? Anyway, by that logic Bush's assistance with AID's in Africa must be one huge screw up on his part. What was he thinking? :06:

Takeda Shingen 11-09-12 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1958810)
As well as global warming. Um, is a Tracfone a fault? It is a program that helps those in need. I'm certain the program is abused. What program offered by the gov't is not abused? Anyway, by that logic Bush's assistance with AID's in Africa must be one huge screw up on his part. What was he thinking? :06:

Then why the gripe over it? Why are we even talking about it? Sheesh. Everything's a big freaking deal until someone points out that said big freaking deal was started by a Republican and then it's not a big freaking deal anymore. Color me exasperated.

AVGWarhawk 11-09-12 11:54 AM

Who's griping? Yubba? Seems like a normal day. :O:


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2q7fUMmC54c/0.jpg

Takeda Shingen 11-09-12 11:56 AM

I'm thinking it's more...

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instanc...x/22651299.jpg

AVGWarhawk 11-09-12 11:57 AM

Oh, the visuals....:dead:

August 11-09-12 12:08 PM

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...93418608_n.jpg

Oberon 11-09-12 01:08 PM

http://4chandata.org/images/threads/...everywhere.jpg

Platapus 11-09-12 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer (Post 1958641)
Oh Crap!! It's too late now Baby!!
:har:


OOps. :oops:

I almost updated all the years when I copy/pasted my post from last election.

Rats. :oops::oops:

Platapus 11-09-12 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1958621)
Ridiculous and unnecessary amount of complexity and red tape if you ask me.

It may seem unnecessary now, but in the early days, the simple act of polling people took a lot longer time.

Almost interesting trivia.

There have been over 700 proposed amendments to the constitution to either significantly change or abolish the Electoral College. More proposed amendments on this topic than any other topic.

http://www.archives.gov/federal-regi...llege/faq.html

Personally, I think the solution is to fix the electoral college, not abolish it. One way I would like to fix it is to make all the states use proportional elector selection methodologies in order to more closely represent the votes of the citizens.

But both major political parties like the Electoral College just the way it is, so don't expect help from Congress.

There is a second way to propose an amendment, but it has never been used.

2/3rds of the legislators of the states (34 States) can form a convention to propose an amendment. Then if 3/4ths of the states (38 states) ratify it, then it becomes an amendment to the constitution.

What are the chances of 34 states getting together and forming a convention about this? :nope:

BTW, Although it is trendy to blame the president for *everything* that happens in the US, the president has no say in proposing or approving amendments to the constitution. There is no presidential veto for constitutional amendments.

Hollingsworth v Virginia (3 US 378 [1798]):

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The negative of the President applies only to the ordinary cases of legislation: He has nothing to do with the proposition, or adoption, of amendments to the Constitution.

Madox58 11-09-12 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1958989)
OOps. :oops:

I almost updated all the years when I copy/pasted my post from last election.

Rats. :oops::oops:

:D
I knew it was a mistake but wanted to beat Steve to the punch.
:up:

Great post for those that didn't know all that stuff anyway Mate.
Most people can't tell you what they were supposed to learn in Govt class in high school!
(I had to re-learn all that stuff when I hit the REAL WORLD!)
Smoked alot of, umm, cigars! Yea that's it! Back then,
:haha:


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