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razark 11-07-12 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958155)
Should have, Romney was not my first choice but much better than obama and was only one who had a chance of beating him.

Sorry, I'll make sure I check with you in four years to make sure I know who the approved candidate is. I mean, I'm just a rather non-descript American voter. There's no possible way I could have considered my options and made an informed decision.

I did some independent research this morning, in fact. It turns out that the sun did rise. And will continue to do so until January 20th, 2017. Your guy lost. Get on with your life, and better luck November 8th, 2016.

JU_88 11-07-12 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958153)
Look I would love a serious third party candidate but it just is not reality currently and this election was extremely important, it was about obama feeling he had a mandate and free reign come January.Gary Johnson or any of the other morons had no chance of winning but 3% voted for them and left us stuck with Obama.I agree with most libertarian views(apparently Johnson got most of that 3%) but they did nothing but their vote might as well been cast for obama.:/\\!!

Wrong, because totally victory/majority is not always what democracy is about, most of 3% might be enough to make Team D and R realise that they will need to better accomadate some libetarian views in order to win back those voters, especially if that 3% increases in future elections.

Yes you are stuck with Obama for another 4 years, but its not forever and you'll live.
Good on those three percent, and shame on you for calling them idiots for standing up for what they believe, thats just sour grapes on your part because team R lost. That 3% is actually thinking in long term and is taking full advantage of your democratic system rather than just casting a sheepishly reluctant vote for the same old two party dictatorship you have ping ponged between since way back.
Real change only comes from the bottom-up, NEVER from the top-down. If there one thing that bugs the hell out of me, its people who vote for 'lesser of two evils' because the little guy cant win, well obviously when people have that kind of defeatist mentality -of course the little guy will never win.

Sailor Steve 11-07-12 07:13 PM

I could just as easily say that if you and everyone else had voted for Johnson there would have been a real choice. If there had been no third party candidates I would have written in someone else. The lesser of two evils is a game I've never played. Your joke of a candidate happens to be no better than the other guy's joke of a candidate.

I might have let it go this time, but you blaming everyone else for your loss is pathetic. Mookie is right - you are an idiot.

Cybermat47 11-07-12 07:16 PM

You Americans have only 2 parties with a decent chance of winning.

Australia has about 6.

Can't decide who's luckier.:-?

Bubblehead1980 11-07-12 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by razark (Post 1958164)
Sorry, I'll make sure I check with you in four years to make sure I know who the approved candidate is. I mean, I'm just a rather non-descript American voter. There's no possible way I could have considered my options and made an informed decision.

I did some independent research this morning, in fact. It turns out that the sun did rise. And will continue to do so until January 20th, 2017. Your guy lost. Get on with your life, and better luck November 8th, 2016.

That's ignorant to assume everything will be okay we no longer have that luxury, things are different with this "man".Obviously, like a lot of people you don't know this guy's background, how he really feels and thinks, just buy into what he says.This man will wreck the economy even more and a lot of human suffering will come out of it, but hey he did it with the god awful fake smile of his so it makes some people feel warm and fuzzy inside. Oh yea, not to mention the dangerous fools he will likely to appoint to the supreme court, the gun control he will pursue, the ridiculous immigration reform, the "flexible" position of missile defense he will take with Russian(like he told putin), his continued hostility towards Israel.Lets not forget his subversion of the consitution etc.Our only hope is to keep the house GOP in next four years to block every stupid thing he tries to do.

The enemy has made it through the gates, those of us with our eyes open have what the French felt like in 1940, we are an occupied nation.

AVGWarhawk 11-07-12 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by razark (Post 1958148)
Because obviously, those of us who voted for a third party would have voted for Romney otherwise?

:har:


Exactly. They would use the write in vote if the two candidates are not appealing. Some just do note vote if the candidates are not to their liking.

Morts 11-07-12 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958140)
Look at what the third party idiots caused, shame, shame.

50% Obama
47% Romney
3% Other third party candidates

http://i.qkme.me/3qchj5.jpg

Morts 11-07-12 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958184)
The enemy has made it through the gates, those of us with our eyes open have what the French felt like in 1940, we are an occupied nation.

Why arent you a funny one :rotfl2:
Why cant cant you just deal with the fact that the majority of your nation holds a different opinion than you ? and that they won.

JU_88 11-07-12 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958184)
That's ignorant to assume everything will be okay we no longer have that luxury, things are different with this "man".Obviously, like a lot of people you don't know this guy's background, how he really feels and thinks, just buy into what he says.This man will wreck the economy even more and a lot of human suffering will come out of it, but hey he did it with the god awful fake smile of his so it makes some people feel warm and fuzzy inside. Oh yea, not to mention the dangerous fools he will likely to appoint to the supreme court, the gun control he will pursue, the ridiculous immigration reform, the "flexible" position of missile defense he will take with Russian(like he told putin), his continued hostility towards Israel.Lets not forget his subversion of the consitution etc.Our only hope is to keep the house GOP in next four years to block every stupid thing he tries to do.

The enemy has made it through the gates, those of us with our eyes open have what the French felt like in 1940, we are an occupied nation.


You sound like you've been watching too much Alex Jones or something.
The wrecked economy you speak of cannot be blamed on Obama or any president before him. It is caused by a 30 year debt binge which is a combination of mass irresponsibily by financial institutions, politicians and shock horror - ordinary citizens and consumers.
Virtually everything you said above could easily be reworded by a die hard democrat to describe Bush or Romney to the same degree of accuracy (or in accuracy).
Your eyes are open, but only to one set of views which can only seem to determine one possible outcome, what will you say if we hit 2016 and nothing much has changed?

Tchocky 11-07-12 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958184)
That's ignorant to assume everything will be okay we no longer have that luxury, things are different with this "man".

I'd love to be proved wrong about why you've put that in quotes.

Enlighten us.

razark 11-07-12 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958184)
That's ignorant to assume everything will be okay we no longer have that luxury, things are different with this "man".

He's had four years. If he wanted to totally destroy America, why would he wait for a second term he might not have gotten, when he could have done it in his first term. Are you that damn stupid?

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958184)
Obviously, like a lot of people you ... just buy into what he says.

Remember that part up there where I admitted to not voting for him? Again, how dense are you?

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958184)
This man will wreck the economy even more and a lot of human suffering will come out of it...

Yup. Obama is the one single person in control of the United States economy. Congress has nothing to do with the budget, do they?

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958184)
Our only hope is to keep the house GOP in next four years to block every stupid thing he tries to do.

Make sure that after he fails to accomplish anything, you place the blame solely on Obama for not getting anything done. Toe that party line, man!


BTW-
I live in Texas.
Code:

President - Harris County:
Barack Obama (D)    579,070
Mitt Romney (R)    579,068

Damn. If I had voted for Romney instead of "Other", Romney would have won by -1 votes. Don't I feel silly now? (Of course, that's just my county. It doesn't matter towards the state's electoral votes.)

Code:

President - Texas:
Mitt Romney (R)    4,555,799
Barack Obama (D)    3,294,440

You see my point? It doesn't matter if I vote for Obama, Romney, or "Other". My vote wasn't going to matter in the totals. I knew that going in. I chose to use my vote to send a message that I hope might register with someone. I knew the guy I was voting for didn't have a chance. Even if he had won all the states he was on the ballot in, he couldn't have gotten the 270 to win. But it's my vote, my right, and my choice.

So go and stick your doom and gloom BS somewhere else. Don't blame me for choosing to vote for neither of the big two. Your guy screwed up, America made its choice, and it wasn't your guy. You can do three things: man up and work harder for your guy next time, pack up and leave the country, or whine on the internet about it.


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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958184)
The enemy has made it through the gates, those of us with our eyes open have what the French felt like in 1940, we are an occupied nation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...emish_Bond.jpg
Uh huh... do tell.

vienna 11-07-12 07:50 PM

Maybe Bubblehead is looking at it the wrong way: it isn't a case of 3% costing Romney the election; it's just a case of 53% of Americans saying "anyone but Romney"... :)

<O>

Sailor Steve 11-07-12 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1958184)
Obviously, like a lot of people you don't know this guy's background, how he really feels and thinks, just buy into what he says.

And you don't just buy into what the right-wing shills say? You are so transparent, you're the only one who can't see it.

Quote:

The enemy has made it through the gates, those of us with our eyes open have what the French felt like in 1940, we are an occupied nation.
:rotfl2:

You? Eyes open? You still don't get it.

Morts 11-07-12 07:57 PM

Oh and just for you Bubbles

http://i.imgur.com/qN8YC.jpg

Oberon 11-07-12 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 1958197)
Maybe Bubblehead is looking at it the wrong way: it isn't a case of 3% costing Romney the election; it's just a case of 53% of Americans saying "anyone but Romney"... :)

<O>

53% of America and 95% of the world, in fact in a poll done by the BBC of about, 27 countries IIRC, only the people of Pakistan wanted Romney to win.


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