If an enquiry supports that then the consequences will be warranted, I'm simply stating I believe the authorities should have the opportunity to investigate the matter fully and 'hopefully' impartially.

So you are not attacking the police but attacking them.:hmmm:

You like to site the bad examples not the good ones there are plenty of good cops out there and plenty that actually have challenged it when the "Big Blue Wall" was wrong.

Look up Smedely Butler and he is far from the only example.

When you shoot, you shoot to kill.

There is no training for your average officer to disarm an assailant. Look at the ny shooting. Those guys were shooting to hit the torso, and what was their hit rate? 60-70% at best (I didn't check). Now you ask them to hit some bodies wrist holding a gun. What about shooting their leg then? Probably wouldn't have stopped the dude in a wheelchair.

Those electric wheelchairs are HEAVY, btw. 200-400 lbs for the chair alone, and they have treads. You can't grab one and pull it aside. and their fast too, they could be considered a weapon as a car is.

I would assume the cop underestimated te guy and was cornered before he realized it.

Cops piss me off as much as anybody, and as a group I really dont like them. But as for individuals just trying to do a job, I feel for those guys put into a situation that suddenly gets out of control.

You shoot because she or he must be neutralized, or (disarmed) and it is not synonymous with the dead, at least not here in Sweden.

Are you referring to me with the above?

I made a post the other day thanking an officer for helping me without being asked, it is in the comment thread.

Gargamel, I understand shoot to kill, very sound training.

But did you have to shoot? (not you in particular, sir)

They have no other means to dispatch a threat? (a threat in a wheelchair with one arm and one leg)

Thank you for your service, but stop protecting your bad apples, it makes the citizens feel as if we are having our intelligence insulted.

But we are all dumb if we don't suck on the government teat, I am sure that is coming, you guys know what is best for us, not us?

Justify your unions protecting utter scumbags, like the cases I mentioned?


My Judge Dredd reference still stands in this particular case.
Notice I try not to call them cops. That is respect. I am simply asking why you let people like this stain the rest, because you share a union patch?

You can always have someone ban me, because I am not shutting my criticism up in this case.

Well that was my point, where the hell was his taser?

Oh, I was a medic, not a cop.

I stopped trusting cops when one gave my squad a parking ticket, with the flashers on.

Thanks for your service nonetheless.

I appreciate all public servants.

But have no problems killing (bad pun) those who damage the public trust.

I could forgive it, and would have made no beef of this had he not killed someone before.

Some people, just do not belong with a gun.

It is hard to tell who at times, but when a reason manifests itself, and gets swept under a rug...OK stuff happens... Then he does it again?

I am not as angered by the event, as I am the protection he will receive. I want for once some fellow officers to actually condemn this behavior.



Well, ya know. Fantasy land...