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Jimbuna 08-30-12 06:15 AM

In a country known to harbour armed terrorists, in a house where armed terrorists were believed to be, climbing stairs in pitch black conditions, hearing two gunshots, seeing a man peeking out of a door and suspecting it was possibly the worlds most wanted....

I'd say they had sufficient cause given all the circumstances.

Far better than the alternative scenario of a group of soldiers being gunned down or killed in a booby trapped house.

CaptainHaplo 08-30-12 08:07 AM

Look, we all know the Annointed One used his awesomeness to transport himself astrally (or was etherally?) to the room, disable any weapons the bad guys had, then asked the Seal's to provide him with a firearm (I hear he even - under intense pressure in a highly stressful situation - said "please"). He then turned to Bin Laden, shifted the local area of time and space into the Matrix, fired and then recited the names (from memory) of each 9/11 victim to Bin Laden as he was forced to watch his death coming as the bullet approached.

At that point, he returned the weapon to the Seal (thanking them each by name), gave them each their instructions to not mention his amazing abilities, then faded away before their eyes as he returned to Washington - just in time for a quick basketball game (he didn't even break a sweat) before addressing the nation to share the good news.

Even more astounding - he never messed up his immaculately pressed suit.

How dare one of those lowly peon soldiers dare to contradict the "official" version. Ungrateful so and so!

Ducimus 08-30-12 10:24 AM

All I have to say is I really "love" the way the press exposed the writer's true identity. The guy was writing under a psudeo name for a reason. Thanks to the press, they may have endangered him and his family.

(insert plehtora of colorful nouns here)

Hottentot 08-30-12 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus (Post 1928122)
All I have to say is I really "love" the way the press exposed the writer's true identity.

Yeah, that's exactly what I though too when I originally read this on a Finnish paper. It literally was like: "The author uses pseudonym blahblahblah, but his real name is confirmed to be yadayadayada." It's the first time I remember such case of a pseudonym being made useless already when it's published the first time. Sort of defeats the purpose.

Would be interesting to know how they figured it out so quickly. If I'm not completely mistaken, usually the names of the personnel participating in operations like this are classified in the first place? I wouldn't put it past the author of a book like this to have his loose lips work against him.

Bilge_Rat 08-30-12 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 1927993)
Whatever he have done, he HAD the right to a fair trail.(thereafter we eliminater him)

As a journalist wrote after his dead, now those 9/11 believes got new blood-why did they kill him, why didn't they captured him alive a.s.o

I guess, now that it have been "revealed" that he was unarmed, when he was killed, those truther got really good stuff to use in their debate.

I'm not 100 % truther but even I wunder why they had to kill him and not giving him the right to a fair trail.

Markus

It think it was pretty obvious, even under the "official" version, that the SEAL's mission was to terminate him with extreme prejudice. There was never any intention of taking him alive and that is fine by me.

Osmium Steele 08-30-12 11:03 AM

How's this for a conspiracy theory?

Pakistan's Foreign Minister makes a surprise visit to the White House, meets behind closed doors with administration and Pentagon officials, and flies home.

A couple weeks later, the raid goes down, "without Pakistan's knowledge or permission".

As a former ISI operative told me on my recent travels, paraphrasing as my Urdu sux,

"Does your country really think the world's most wanted terrorist, decades on the run, with tons of opsec experience, stayed in one place for that long, with no guards around him?"

I had to admit, I do not. I'm still convinced Bin Laden died in Tora Bora.

When I told him, he just smiled, nodded and poured us another cup of tea.

mapuc 08-30-12 11:40 AM

There are absolutly no weird or conspiracy about his death.

It's not more than an hour ago, that I heard following on the danish CNN(TV2News) that after he "was killed some of the other guys went into the bedrum and shot him several times at close range"

When they said that, I remembered how The romanian dictator was killed.

He got a trail-was sentence to death, but they how was ordered to do the job, couldn't wait, due to the deep hate towards the former dictator.

I think it's the same here -Hate, deep hate against a terrorist that have done some terrible things against USA and it's friends.

SO! There's nothing weird about his death.

BASTA

Markus

mookiemookie 08-30-12 12:50 PM

I don't get all the hemming and hawing over this. The bastard's dead. Good. I don't care if Osama had a gun, he didn't have a gun, he invited the SEALs in for tea or he plead for his life on his knees. He deserved nothing more than what he got.

This guy's just trying to cash in on the fact that he's got a bit of inside info on the raid, integrity be damned. Shameful.

Takeda Shingen 08-30-12 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1928178)
I don't get all the hemming and hawing over this. The bastard's dead. Good. I don't care if Osama had a gun, he didn't have a gun, he invited the SEALs in for tea or he plead for his life on his knees. He deserved nothing more than what he got.

This guy's just trying to cash in on the fact that he's got a bit of inside info on the raid, integrity be damned. Shameful.

To me, it seems that the angst comes from two groups:

1. Conspiracy theorists who thrive on this kind of stuff. No amount of proof will ever satiate their need to see themselves as part of something bigger. See the Truther movement.

2. Team R true believers that are still butthurt over 2008. The fact that bin Laden was killed on Obama's watch only adds to their frustration.

As for the 'author' (he no doubt had a ghostwriter) of this book, I'd say that you're right; he wants to cash in on his involvement. Military service does not render one immune to greed.

Hottentot 08-30-12 01:22 PM

And Gaddafi died from wounds he got in a firefight.


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