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MH 07-20-12 07:26 PM

What is the matter with those people.:nope:

Nippelspanner 07-20-12 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1912104)
They really should stop publicizing the identities of these whackjobs. They do it for attention and notoriety. Just refer to him as "a gunman" instead of his name.

:yep:

Task Force 07-20-12 07:40 PM

I heard he used a AR 15 assault rifle,now How the hell do you get a AR 15 into a theater and not get seen, Must have no security.

Onkel Neal 07-20-12 07:41 PM

I think he went in the back, through an exit door.

mookiemookie 07-20-12 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Task Force (Post 1912110)
I heard he used a AR 15 assault rifle,now How the hell do you get a AR 15 into a theater and not get seen, Must have no security.

He bought a ticket and went in with everyone else. Then he went out through the exit, propped the door, came back in with the guns.

Biggles 07-20-12 10:27 PM

Roughly a year after Breivik slaughtered his way through Utøya. One wonder if it was deliberately matched....?

A hideous act in any case, and a truly sad day. This week sure has been bad for good ol' Earth, let's hope a quick recovery for all wounded.

Tribesman 07-21-12 02:42 AM

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Just refer to him as "a gunman" instead of his name.
Wouldn't it be better to refer to him by name but insist that every use of his name has the words "stupid pathetic loser" attatched(or words to that effect)

Skybird 07-21-12 03:58 AM

The names of perpetrators should not be withheld, so that the public knows whom to put the shame on.

What would be welcomed, though, is the media acting with more self-restraint in general. Less glitter. Less giving-them-a-stage. Less talkshows putting the victim-perpetrator-role 180° around, and distorting guilt by endlessly discussing it and trying to learn why a perpetrator became what he became. For too many media, such reasonable consideration serves only as an alibi to surf on such stories as long as possible.

Jimbuna 07-21-12 06:00 AM

Does this state still have the death penalty then?

Onkel Neal 07-21-12 08:20 AM

Good question. Hope so.

Tragedy within a tragedy, this young lady experienced a similar shooting before.

Her Twitter feed shows how excited she was to see the film.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/story...ist/56369600/1

Harald_Lange 07-21-12 08:29 AM

I was like, hmm that's bad, another shooting, but that Twitter stream really hits home. https://mobile.twitter.com/jessicaredfield
really harrowing and another senseless waste of life that will effect families for the rest of their lives.

Skybird 07-21-12 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1912294)

That's the real nature of "chance" demonstrated: everything is possible. But it must feel grim for her parents and friends, no doubt.

Saw a pic of her in German news. Very friendly eyes, it appeared to me. Details like this give abstract events happening to strangers a personal face, suddenly.

Meanwhile it was reported for some time that the attacker indeed should have said something that he were "Joker". Police denied that soon after. But that he maybe saw himself as a real adversary to fictional Batman was the first thing that came to my mind, without any special reason.

sidslotm 07-21-12 09:49 AM

I wonder, is it not time for a minimal gun law in the USA, I mean, an assualt rifle. How can a weapon like this ever be sold across the counter and justified in public hands. It has only one purpose, military.

Morts 07-21-12 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sidslotm (Post 1912320)
I wonder, is it not time for a minimal gun law in the USA, I mean, an assualt rifle. How can a weapon like this ever be sold across the counter and justified in public hands. It has only one purpose, military.

I honestly dont see a problem with it anymore, i used to be semi anti-gun, and i believe i've even argued against weapons like these on here.
If a criminal wants an AR-15, he is going to get one, simple as that.
All of our gun control laws here in Denmark havent prevented the criminals from shooting eachother up with just about every type of weapon out there, at some point or another.

Skybird 07-21-12 10:18 AM

I doubt any sharpening of gun laws in the US will happen. For Americans, it seems to be not so much a legal issue, but one of culture and attitude basing on the way the history of their country was born and formed, also an attitude towards not only guns, but violence in general. There is a wide abyss between Europeans and Americans opening up, like it also does regarding some basic terms like "freedom", for example.

I must admit, though, that on gun law understanding I have shifted in recent years towards something that is more American and less European. I tend to allow (licensed) possession of pistols and revolvers if according training gets done (obligatory), and hunting rifles. Military weapons, MPs, assault guns, semi-automatic weapons and stuff like that however should stay locked to where they belong: law enforcement and military.

My father does sports precision shooting, now exclusively 9mm pistol. At his club there also are some policemen training in their free time, and an Olympia shooter as well. The policemen say that internally police is shaking heads about more gun cintrol in Germany, because we already have the probably sharpest gun laws in Europe. The crime statistics for our town show that in just one case of murder in the past 50 years, a legal firearm was used - the others invlving firearms were carried out with unregistered illegal arms.

So, it seems there is substance in the argument that tougher gun laws do little, if anything, to lower crime rates that involve firearms, since gun laws only effect registererd, legal gun owners.

(As far as I'm concerned, pistol shooting is not my thing as a sports. I tend to see it as pourely a means of combat. Thus, doing it for sports is boring to me and does not catch my interest. Dissapointing for my father, but I cannot help it).


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