I've read it at least a dozen times in various translations. What did Jesus say you should do? Hate everybody? Hate anybody? No, he said love your neighbor as yourself. And when he was challenged with the question "Who is my neighbor?" he answered with the story of a man who was mugged and left for dead, and when his own people ignored him he was rescued by one he hated. The point of the parable was that in God's eyes we are all neighbors.

And you didn't answer my comment on you not bothering to read the quote I posted.

You need to dig deeper into the crime stats on child molesting and you will see how the skewing of the Females 2 to 1 are achieved.

ZeeWolf

Why don't you link them rather than tell others "you need to do this". Presenting information is the proper way to debate.

Th only proper way to debate him is not to. Based on this and previous threads, no amount of facts is going to get through.

I live in hope.

This is a good teaching moment SS,
You must understand that love that the Lord was talking about has no single
word meaning today. Let me clarify: shoving things up another mans
rectum would not be an act of love making as it is today.
The love Christ was talking to believers about had the action of warning
your neighbor and nothing to do with engaging in selfish perversions.
Now, today of course warning someone of overt sinful behavior to avoid the
wrath of God is an act of hate, that is true. But it wasn't always so.

ZeeWolf

And of course you do everything you can to pervert things to your own ends. The point of Christ's teaching is that all sins can be forgiven. I don't like the act any more than you do, believe it or not, but your answer is to hate and kill anything you find immoral. You live in hate, and that perverts your thinking, even your soul. You try to use God to justify your hate, and that is the exact opposite of everything Jesus taught.

You can hate all you want to, but to say God wants you to is a greater sin than the one you condemn. You are the exact opposite of everything Christianity stands for.

I'm not even a believer anymore, but even I can see how twisted your so-called philosophy is.

Marking this thread for observation purposes but also a little intrigued at your use of the phrase "morality that this nation (America) was built on".

Would that be the same 'morality' that almost wiped out the Indian nation?

I sincerely hope this thread will remain civil.

But Strike, that quote is from the jewish bit so it should be sent off to the camp along with the gays.

The United States isn't built on Christian values. It is built (or at least supposed to be) on socitetal tolerance. It doesn't matter if what they do is against your god or anyone elses, as this is a secular country. Not a theocracy. Anyway, why do you care about what consenting adults do behind closed doors? How are they bothering you in such a way that you'd repress their civil rights? Pedophilism is wrong for any sexuality, but being a homosexual in general is not.

So having a prostate exam is a sin :hmmm:

Hi Jimbuna,
I certainly want to remain civil. But to answer your direct question - yes.
But the Indians where never a "nation". They where tribal groups of murdering savages.
However the foundation of the nation of America that was put forth as a blue print on which
the foundation was to rest was one of very high and godly principles. And the men of congress
where to be men of high morale fiber. But of course that went up in smoke in the last century.

And, if you need proof of the total departure from the Founding Fathers.
I rest my case with the member of congress that is a toothless homosexual Jew that
was caught up in a scandal that wouldn't even make it on the news if it happened today.

ZeeWolf

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ZeeWolf

Men of high morale fiber? Is that why they owned slaves? Also, what's the problem with being a Jew? I reiterate, what gives you the right to tell people what they can and can't do based on your religion?

Very well said my somewhat Agnostic fellow forum member. Very well said. :up: