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Originally Posted by yubba
(Post 1878992)
You know me I'm all over the place, things change, and will change the Amerian people won't stand for it, it's the calm before the storm, governments come and go same with tyrants, this government is broke money wise and the bank of china tires of us, and crooks in DC are looking for an out.
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"?
Maybe, the current systems certainly are not sustainable, in particular the economic system.
Will the American people rise up against their government? I find it unlikely, if I'm honest (at the moment) because so long as people have their basic needs (whatever they define those to be) met, then they will be content to ignore government and live their daily lives.
China cannot, and will not, take action against the United States of America within the next five years, possibly not even for another ten. If the PRC were to take economic action against the US tomorrow then it would be in the middle of a civil war by Tuesday. Yes, the US economy would suffer, but the PRC would be
destroyed. Beijing knows this, Washington knows this, which is why there is this uncomfortable state of detente, with the occasional squabble and demands for apologies, etc.
If and when the PRC is able to stabilise its economy to one which does not rely on flogging cheap goods to anyone who will buy it, THEN it will be able to challenge the US, but not a second before it because if the US falls, China follows.
In terms of financial problems, well that is going to get worse before it gets better, but it will get better, did the US population rise up against Hoover? Was Roosevelt put in power by a popular coup? No, the US system went through its standard process of electing a new leader. Sure there were rises in political groups, including the isolationists...who I note with amusement are seemingly on the rise again...and communists and even fascists, because people will turn to extremism if they perceive their day to day lifestyle to be in jeopardy.
I think that it's pretty much a given now that Obama, short of declaring himself on national television to be a jew-hating, puppy killing, muslim extremist, illegal immigrant from Iran, will win this years election, which flies in the face of the 'One and Done' crowd. However, like Hoover, he will not turn around the depression, and by 2016 the Republicans will have their act together, a Republican president will be elected, just in time for the depression to start wearing off.
These things happen in cycles, just thank your lucky stars that this is not the 1920s, and you're not living in a Hooverville. It could be a lot worse. Will it get a lot worse? Possibly, no-one can say for certain, and for some people already it is as bad as the 1920s, but even back then, the US government held, and it will continue to hold, through good presidents and through bad.