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04-11-12 05:21 PM |
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Originally Posted by Skybird
(Post 1868289)
Grizzly bears and Brownbears are NOT the same, the first is a sub-species of the latter, also there are differences between Northamerican and European Brownbears.
European Brown bear: Ursus arctos arctos
American Brown bear:
Grizzly bear: Ursus arctos horribiles
Kodiak bear: Ursus arctos middendorffi
In america, brownbears are either Grizzlies or Kodiaks. "Brownbears" usually mean the European variant.
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There are not really distinctive features that can really tell the difference between a North American Brown bear and its European/Asian cousins. Bears on this side of the pond can also have grizzled tips on their fur. As written before, even the definition of the Kodiak bear (another example being the Hokkaido bear- Ursus arctos yesoenis ) as a subspecies of the Brown Bear is debated among zoologists.
If you would put a pregnant Kodiak bear into the Finnish woods, you could not really distinguish her offspring from the Finnish bears - other than by the alcoholic beverage preferences of course :03:
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Originally Posted by Skybird
(Post 1868289)
I do not find it again, but we have had videos two or three years ago showing bears being chased up trees by small puppies since the puppies behaved different from the normal scheme of behavior bears are used to. It'S this what I was wondering about: is a brownbear intimidated or enraged when being confronted with a behavior pattern that he is not used to?
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Can't tell you anything about that, my wise "Radio Eriwan"-like answer wozuld be: it depends :DL
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
(Post 1868277)
Pepper spray might be good, but I'm starting to like the idea of a can of Wasp & Hornet spray - 30-foot range, solid stream, accurate and extremely nasty to anything it hits in the face. I recently read about its use as a home-defense weapon, and it should work on bigger predators as well.
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I've heard about the wasp spray, though I would not recommend it against bears for the reason that their most important organ is the nose. Pepper has the advantage that it almost instantly reduces the capability of this organ to work properly. I've heard that wasp spray must be nasty for the eyes, but an important factor is to hit those little marbles, with pepper spraying in the general direction of the attacking bear would be sufficent.
Another thing why pepper is imo superior is that brand sprays are really made to work in the important moment - I doubt that wasp spray cans have this high standard in quality - most people don't care if their wasp spray has to be shaken before use or doesn't work instantly but in the second try.
Also important considering 2-legged unfriendly creatures is that it works against drunk/drugged people (no 100% guarantee though), don't know how good hornet spray is at this.
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Originally Posted by August
(Post 1868295)
Bears are bears. Even the smaller black bear will happily rip your face off if it wants to. Bring a (large caliber) gun when you go into the woods and you need not fear them.
Oh and never forget the old saying: "You don't need to outrun the bear, you just need to outrun the person you're with. :DL
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Most people I've heard recommend at least a .357 to do the job on a bear. Though you are forgetting the most important thing: training! If you are not sure to hit a moving target, charging with 25 miles an hour towards you, then a gun is not of much use. However the sound of a firing gun can chase off a bear.
Or maybe the next time I'll be in bear country I'll take a one-legged friend with me :O:
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