Well said.
You miss out one reason though.......
It was spelled wrong last time;)


How many times are you going to repeat that nonsense tater?
Would you like to go through it again so you can say "ooops I got it wrong" again?
How long would it be until you repeat the same mistake again ......and again and again?


Someone is on the same brainlevel as the mad mullahs who say you still owe them for 1953:doh:

Someone already answered it. Military Industrial Complex. We need our military out there doing their primary mission; shoot, move, and communicate. We really don't care who they shoot at, as long as they use up beans and bullets.

Ever since WWII we've always had a war, had an enemy on the horizon, or had to protect "our interests abroad" in one way or another. Every day almost every media outlet is warning us about someone or something that is our next threat, to humanity, to freedom, to any buzz word that needs to be solved with beans and bullets. Our media always has an enemy waiting in the wings. Every day the press is full of horrible stories about the atrocities committed by our next enemy.

Lately it has been North Korea and Iran. (We keep hinting at China but can't afford to go that route yet.) It just makes it easier to sell when the time comes. (The time when our stockpiles of weapons start to grow and we need to put some down range.)

This is an election year. A few well placed attacks are always worth a few points in the polls. An invasion would seal the deal, instant re-election.

Why?

I think because Israel and by proxy USA governments feel a need to keep their position as the top military power in the ME, Israel because of its small size and feelings of vulnerability and USA because of cold war politics and oil.

and besides,

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...55382830_n.jpg

Regards, Sam.

Lol!

I'd be very surprised if the US attacked Iran, very surprised indeed, particularly under a Democrat government.

Israel though, it's not a matter of if but when.

Accident versus deliberate action. Not the same thing.

Except that it's not the media who is saying this but the hostages themselves. Now call me crazy but I tend to believe them over you or the media and certainly over politically motivated CIA reports.

Maybe you traitors should have thought about that before you tried to desert your country. :yep:

Maybe the Japanese could say that if we were to ignore the fact that they brought it upon themselves by attacking us in the first place.

Sorry but you loosing a childhood fight does not compare with an organized attack on sovereign American territory nor does it compare with the kidnapping and illegal detention of American diplomats. Many of the problems we have today stem from our weakness and inaction during that time.

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Defending "your" values all over the world, by force, will probably not win you the hearts of the world ?

So what do you say about the forced inthronization of the Shah, by "the west", or better US and UK ? So iranian people did not like this, especially when it turned out Shah Pahlewi was just a bad dictator.

I am sure argentinian people did not like it as well, when the CIA killed the democratically elected president Allende ?

You have helped and supported Bin Laden, as long as his terrorism was directed towards Russia.

You have helped and supported Saddam Hussein, before he did what he always did, only this time against Saudi-Arabia - which is also a befriended dictatorship itself.

And you call the temporary occupation of an embassy (without killing a diplomate) an attack against America, after what you did ?

I guess hipocrisy knows no limits :dead:

So the Iranains can say it because you overthrew thier government and supported a dictator to try and secure Iranian resources.:yeah:
Well done august you just justified the mullahs:rotfl2:

:har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har::har: :har:
I suppose its a politcally motivated cover up when your government says its embassies are not soveriegn american territory.

You really need to learn when someone is being sarcastic.

Yep I am a traitor I have Southern heritage some distant relatives fought for the CSA come and arrest me.But some also fought for the US Army as well oh and my mother was born in Iran (left way before the 1979 revolution) shall I be drawn and quartered?

Exactly what former hostage says that Ahmadinejad was the ring leader? I have never seen or heard anywhere such a claim be made that was proven to be true they base this off of a picture of a man that looks like Ahmadinejad.And it is not my media I do not own nor do I trust it so you not lay claim of ownership at my feet.Even the CIA checked into this and said that he was not involved.

Perhaps many of the problems we have with Iran are problems that we created by placing the Shah of Iran in charge in the first place we backed a despot that killed many Iranians and resulted in the revolution in the first place(the CIA backed the Shahs entry into power by the way) it should not be overly shocking that they kind disliked the American government.I see the situation in Iran since 1979 as an excellent example of how to shoot yourself in the foot.

And lets not forget Iran Contra which involved the US government selling arms to Iran though the Israelis in exchange for the release of hostages being held by Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The Iranian government is most defiantly not to be trusted and they have done and supported some foul deeds but there is no reason to get into an all out war with Iran. Waste of time seeing as with every passing day the regime in Iran grows more unpopular by the minute.


@Catfish "You have helped and supported Bin Laden, as long as his terrorism was directed towards Russia." there is no evidence to support this claim what so ever.In an abstract manner perhaps by the supply of weapons and funds to the ISI who gave them out to the Afghans but it is very well known that Bin Laden used his own money and money from backers in Saudi Arabia in his support of Mujaheddin against the Soviets he did not need any money or aid from out side sources.(outside his click)

Winning "the hearts of the world" is an impossible task and it's a waste of time trying. No matter what our country does we will still be hated, if for no other reason than jealousy for our success.

"Just a bad dictator" is a huge oversimplification. Was the Shah bad for extending suffrage to women? His economic and social reforms? How about his modernization efforts? Even if you discount that he still was a less oppressive leader than the mullahs which run the country now.

You've been watching too much Michael Moore. A theory does not fact make. If you have some kind of proof that the CIA murdered Allende then post it or withdraw the accusation.

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We didn't help bin Laden. We assisted the Mujahadeen to combat the Soviet invasion of their country. There is no evidence that he ever recieved aid or training from the US government. That's two unsupported claims you've made.

You have helped and supported Saddam Hussein, before he did what he always did, only this time against Saudi-Arabia - which is also a befriended dictatorship itself.

An embassy is a nations sovereign territory and attacks upon it are acts of war. End of story.

Is that what you call that?

Let me guess you're being sarcastic again...

You mean the same CIA that claimed Saddam was buying Nigerian yellowcake uranium? You believe them over the hostages themselves? Do some research on your country's history. Here i'll get you started:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud...hostage_crisis

Re-entry into power actually. Another way of putting it was righting the wrong done his father during WW2 when the Soviets and Brits violated Iran's neutrality and occupied the country.

And this makes Iranians mad at us how?

I can agree with that but this thread is about reasons for a war against Iran not reasons why we shouldn't. I have posted the ones I can think of but I make no claims as to their advisability at this point.

I agree with you statement about Bin Laden but what is your meaning with Saddam Hussein you seem to lump that as also being a false claim when the US government did in fact support and provide military aid to Iraq and therefore we did support Saddam at one time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...%80%93Iraq_war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq%E2...ates_relations

http://usiraq.procon.org/view.answer...stionID=000887

The US government says you are talking bollox:up:
US law says you are talking bollox:up:
International law says you are talking bollox:up:
The American courts say you are talking bollox:up:
Every government says you are talking bollox:up:
Vienna convention says you are talking bollox:up:
Even the mad mullahs say you are talking bollox:up:

Seems a pretty overwhelming verdict doesn't it:hmmm:

Face it august is undeniably talking absolute bollox...end of story:rotfl2:

Such a kindergarden view of the world:doh:

I didn't say that second part. That was probably something that Catfish said but I forgot to wrap quote tags around it.

:hmmm:

Nah...you misstablet?.:rotfl2: