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Jimbuna 03-11-12 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1853646)
Best thing get out fast.

I should imagine President Karzai has already got his escape route/package worked out.

nikimcbee 03-11-12 02:11 PM

In hind site, maybe we sould just give Afghanistan back to the Russians. Let them run that place.:dead:

Maybe it's time we just go.
The whole thing is just tragic. No winners.

August 03-11-12 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 1853573)
They simply can't do it. Recruiting would likely plummet like a rock if we started the precedent of handing our wayward soldiers over to local justice, no matter the crime.

The precedent has already been set. Not in Afghanistan or Iraq (yet) but we have allowed our troops to be prosecuted by local authority in the past. It all depends on the Status of Forces agreement, if any, we have with the host country.

Oberon 03-11-12 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1853658)
In hind site, maybe we sould just give Afghanistan back to the Russians. Let them run that place.:dead:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...02/144/fry.jpg

Rockstar 03-11-12 05:30 PM

No doubt this is a bad situation all around, for EVERONE. Something might have snapped in his head. Hopefully he will be treated fairly and not made an example of if he indeed has physiological problems. Did any of a you arm chair judges consider this soldier might have suffered PTSD or another mental disorder, seething anger with no intervention. As well as seeing horrendous things done to his buddies by the very people they are there to protect. This isn't a video game you know.

Our system of "impartial and blind" justice is not perfect, but it is what separates us from an angry mob looking for vengeance. Should we hand him over? NO. Because WE THE PEOPLE sent that soldier over to that god forsaken hellhole when we jumped on the freedom and democracy bandwagon. So WE THE PEOPLE need to act like we talk, and see justice served. Not throw him over the walls and let the dogs tear him apart.



Takeda Shingen 03-11-12 06:33 PM

I think that the real victims were probably those women and children he killed. Just saying.

Rockstar 03-11-12 07:47 PM

Yes most difenetely the victims we're the Afganistan people here. But again I say let's not forget the soldiers we ask to do the most heinous acts of barbarism in the name of those hollow words of freedom and democracy. War takes a toll on the hearts and minds of the men and women WE THE PEOPLE send over there.

War sucks its not something you can just turn off with a remote. There are other consequences in real life and PTSD is one of them, assuming that's the case with this particular soldier. If not then let a jury of his peers decide not a foreign nations kangaroo court.

I am not saying anyone should coddle this soldier. But we should put our money where our mouth is and afford him a fair and just trial he deserves rather throwing him to the wolves to save face.

Platapus 03-11-12 09:12 PM

Why would you assume that a foreign court would be a "Kangaroo Court"?

AngusJS 03-11-12 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1853658)
In hind site, maybe we sould just give Afghanistan back to the Russians. Let them run that place.:dead:

I've often thought that Afghanistan would have been better off if it had stayed a Soviet puppet. After the fall of the Soviet Union, it could have stayed Communist, or gone the Central Asian tinpot dictator route - either would be better than the religious fundamentalism and tribalism there now.

em2nought 03-11-12 10:31 PM

Our gov't should make military hand him over to the barbarians, and then military should stage a coup(With a leader like Ike who distrusts the military industrial complex) against our gov't. Best results we could get out of ALL of this. :D

Sailor Steve 03-12-12 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 1853841)
Our gov't should make military hand him over to the barbarians, and then military should stage a coup(With a leader like Ike who distrusts the military industrial complex) against our gov't. Best results we could get out of ALL of this. :D

So the military should disavow the Constitution they swore to defend, and install a dictator (for that is what he would be)? Then we could have a military leader like the one who distrusted the military?

Interesting scenario.

Jimbuna 03-12-12 05:51 AM

The inevitable consequence...be on your guard over there.

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US fears reprisals after Afghan massacre in Kandahar

US troops in Afghanistan have been placed on alert following the killings of 16 Afghan civilians by a US soldier.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17336074

Hottentot 03-12-12 06:56 AM

Seems the Kangaroo Court agrees with some early opinions in this thread. Wolves want their bones.

Jimbuna 03-12-12 07:26 AM

I doubt that will happen when you take into consideration the fact that Afghanistan has signed an agreement with Nato that foreign soldiers should be tried in their own countries.

eddie 03-12-12 11:50 AM

Now the Taliban want revenge for killing innocent civilians.


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