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Gerald 11-11-11 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1786057)
:yawn:

Thanks for your participation, we send a bill :D

TarJak 11-11-11 05:05 PM

Well who cares if another drug is sold with plan wrapping? This one just doesn't require a prescription. This is a lot of fuss about sod all.

Jimbuna 11-11-11 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1786173)
Well who cares if another drug is sold with plan wrapping? This one just doesn't require a prescription. This is a lot of fuss about sod all.

Agreed mate..but a source of you know what for some :03:

Reece 11-11-11 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1785675)
Are you a smoker mate?

No but it is a persons right to smoke if they want!!:x
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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1785767)
Why? Because that's the reason people visit Oz? :doh: :hmmm:

Not that alone but imagine if a smoker comes here and their smokes are confiscated, lets face it almost half the western world would be smokers and if they couldn't smoke or bring there own they are not likely to come, if I were a smoker I wouldn't go to a country that banned them!:x

CaptainMattJ. 11-12-11 02:48 AM

im sick of this mentality that peoples MUST save others from their own sins and all that nonsense. If a person wants to smoke, what right is it of yours to tell them no. If a person wants to do something (that doesnt infringe on yours rights), then its no business of yours to tell them they cant or shouldnt. i understand businesses banning smoking and and around their restaurant, but this is a bit too far.

Jimbuna 11-12-11 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 1786309)
No but it is a persons right to smoke if they want!!:x

Not that alone but imagine if a smoker comes here and their smokes are confiscated, lets face it almost half the western world would be smokers and if they couldn't smoke or bring there own they are not likely to come, if I were a smoker I wouldn't go to a country that banned them!:x

I can't see it stopping that many people...they will always find somewhere to smoke whether it be behind the walls of a private residence or some other building...surely.

Reece 11-12-11 07:17 AM

Yes but it shouldn't be, this is as bad as forcing adults to wear helmets on pushbikes and horses, fining me $150 for endangering my life!!:x or banning fireworks etc, it's a crime to enjoy yourself!!:doh:

Skybird 11-12-11 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ. (Post 1786406)
im sick of this mentality that peoples MUST save others from their own sins and all that nonsense. If a person wants to smoke, what right is it of yours to tell them no. If a person wants to do something (that doesnt infringe on yours rights), then its no business of yours to tell them they cant or shouldnt. i understand businesses banning smoking and and around their restaurant, but this is a bit too far.

Yes, but two demands I have.

First, diseases caused by the abuse of tobacco, alcohol, should not be payed for by health insurrances when becoming treated. If you intentionally do harm to yourself, I wonder why I am expected to pay for your compensation. You can poke your eye with a pencil intentionally, if you like it. But I hate to pay the doctors bill when you go to hospital. My sense of solidarity (as expressed on social security systems) is for you suffering damage when being caught in an accident, getting struck by fate without it being your fault, or becoming ill by age or more natural means. My solidarity ends when you act stupid and against better knowledge.

Second, the public sphere should be clean of smoke. Especially intense smokers stink like hell, even when not smoking, because the stuff is in their hair, their cloathing, on and in the skin. While that cannot be changed, you can at least demand smokers to not contaminate the air with actively blowing their stinking smoke from a burning cigarette around: Verursacherprinzip - the one causing the dirt or the noise, is responsible for stopping the pollution.

In Germany, many bar owners said that their business has not changed much in numbers, but the audience sometimes has changed. Some smokers stay away, but they won new customers, non-smokers, that before choosed to not enter a smoke-hole.

MH 11-12-11 07:41 AM

In Saudi Arabia smoking is banned on the streets as far as i know due to muslim law....:-)

STEED 11-12-11 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1786057)
:yawn:

And what happens if that Welsh Noodle bans Beer?

Tarjak will over throw her.


:D:rotfl2:

TarJak 11-12-11 03:30 PM

Or throw up over her. :p

STEED 11-12-11 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1786660)
Or throw up over her. :p

:har::har:

Herr-Berbunch 11-12-11 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 1786309)
No but it is a persons right to smoke if they want!!:x

But what about the non-smokers right to not smell the stinky stuff? At present when I walk out of one particular supermarket I'd have to walk through about a dozen peoples' fug! Same for shopping malls and pubs. And as for other buildings, like my workplace, or a restaurant - people returning after smoking reek, as nice-a-person as they may be it just isn't nice.

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Originally Posted by Reece (Post 1786309)
Not that alone but imagine if a smoker comes here and their smokes are confiscated, lets face it almost half the western world would be smokers and if they couldn't smoke or bring there own they are not likely to come, if I were a smoker I wouldn't go to a country that banned them!:x

If people pre-flight are aware that they will be confiscated they wouldn't take them, but buy them on arrival - taxes to Oz, nice move by your government really.

Roughly 20% of the world's population are smokers (1.3bn), mostly males, and Russia and China make up the largest bulk of that. Can't be bothered to do the maths for western-only. :D

They aren't banned, only the branding is banned.

For once, I'm with Sky' :yep:

TarJak 11-12-11 05:08 PM

The mad Welsh ranga is not banning smoking, just the right of a drug manufacturer to have pretty packaging and advertising of their product.

The only reason people are getting het up about this, is history. If a manufacturer came up with a new product today that was known to kill half of its users and contained the many toxins that cigarettes do, then it wouldn't even make it to market.

And I curse Sir Walter Raileigh, he was such a stupid git!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7YBaiJMnik

Reece 11-12-11 05:24 PM

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They aren't banned, only the branding is banned.
This has been a slow move to banning for a long time, it will happen, the price with all the taxes on cigarettes makes it almost impossible to afford it! And it's against the law to grow your own tobacco!:stare:
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But what about the non-smokers right to not smell the stinky stuff?
I agree, I'm a non smoker but there are already enough laws prohibiting smoking in many areas.:yep:


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