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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1778537)

Can you cite an example of something that Obama did that was in violation of the constitution?

Not something you didn't like or something that goes against your interpretation of the constitution.

But something that he did that violated the constitution. If he is as bad as you think, this should be an easy question.

I am sure the Clerk of the Supreme Court would be interested in learning about this.

Glad you asked:

ATLANTA — A federal appeals panel struck down the centerpiece of President Barack Obama's sweeping health care overhaul Friday, moving the argument over whether Americans can be required to buy health insurance a step closer to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The divided three-judge panel of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals concluded Congress overstepped its authority when lawmakers passed the so-called individual mandate, the first such decision by a federal appeals court. It's a stinging blow to Obama's signature legislative achievement, as most experts agree the requirement that Americans carry health insurance – or face tax penalties – is the foundation for other parts of the law.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_925507.html

Since a bill needs to be signed by the president into law, he has a direct impact of violating the constitution. Until the SCOTUS looks into the matter, it is unconstitutional.

Anwar al-Awlaki, while I agree that he needed to take a dirt nap, violating his 5th amendment right to due process was a bit of an over-reach. If I remember correctly, it was Obama who signed that order.

Good point. It will be interesting to see what the Supreme Court decides on this. I think there are viable arguments on both sides on this.

This will be one case I will be following with great interest as it may set a precedent that will have wide implications (good and bad).

I hope the SCOTUS takes their time on this one.

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1779345)

It's effing scarey brother. Just to get something straight, there are quite a few things that I agree with that are written into it. I also did not like how it was ramrodded down our throats, but that is an opinion not based in fact.:)

That being said, people are being FORCED to buy a service from a private company by decree of the government. Before I get ripped to shreds by my fellow brothers and sisters, let me clarify the word forced: You must do x otherwise y will happen to you. That is force, whether it's physical, financial, or emotional.

What blows my lid to high heaven is using the commerce clause as the justification.:damn:

And it was on 02NOV2011 at 1721hrs, Platapus and myself agreed on something.:yeah: