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antikristuseke 10-02-11 02:03 PM

Armistead I'd bet quite a bit of money on you being wrong in your assessment.

Jimbuna 10-02-11 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1759512)
Shut down about 100 leftover cold war bases in Europe that really have no function and place them on the border. The only reason these leftover bases exist now is political and good money makers....not for americans of course.

My guess is in about 20 years we'll have a mexican president demanding we all learn spanish as our first language.

The first part....you've just about done that in the UK already and we can't afford to lose the revenue from your Pesos :DL

The second part....were people saying similar about a black president twenty years ago?

I honestly wouldn't know :hmmm:

Sailor Steve 10-02-11 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1759540)
were people saying similar about a black president twenty years ago?

In twenty years we're going to have a black president who insists we all learn "black" as our first language? :O:
:rotfl2:

1480 10-02-11 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1759603)
In twenty years we're going to have a black president who insists we all learn "black" as our first language? :O:
:rotfl2:

Dat bee ebonics foooooooool.:yep:

soopaman2 10-02-11 04:29 PM

The same Rick Perry whos state allows in state tuition rates to children of illegal aliens? That means I would have to pay more than a riverswimmer/fencejumper?

Ahhh, that one. Yeah, and he accuses Romney of flip flopping.

Alcohol prohibition=huge increase in organized crime (Capone, Bugs Moran, Nascar.. Yeah Nascar look it up)

Drug prohibition= Mexican Cartels,

Prohibition went away, the brutal violence of the 20s went away.

I wonder how many pot smokers sit in prison amongst murderers and rapists... One is too many.

Armistead 10-02-11 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1759535)
Armistead I'd bet quite a bit of money on you being wrong in your assessment.

You may be right, mexicans aren't coming here like they once did, no jobs, but illegals are still coming and the millions of illegals here are still having babies.

Armistead 10-02-11 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2 (Post 1759642)
The same Rick Perry whos state allows in state tuition rates to children of illegal aliens? That means I would have to pay more than a riverswimmer/fencejumper?

Ahhh, that one. Yeah, and he accuses Romney of flip flopping.

Alcohol prohibition=huge increase in organized crime (Capone, Bugs Moran, Nascar.. Yeah Nascar look it up)

Drug prohibition= Mexican Cartels,

Prohibition went away, the brutal violence of the 20s went away.

I wonder how many pot smokers sit in prison amongst murderers and rapists... One is too many.

I agree, spending billions on putting pot smokers behind bars, money could be much better spent. I haven't smoked it in 20 years, but I see no problem with it. They should legalize it and tax it. Course it wouldn't be long before some corporation put all the small pot farmers out of business.

TLAM Strike 10-02-11 06:58 PM

Why not. Hezbollah is working in Mexico now, lets make this an international war. :yeah:

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Originally Posted by danny60 (Post 1759298)
The US going into a country that doesn't have oil?:k_rofl:

Mexico is the world's 6th largest producer of oil. :know:

Castout 10-02-11 07:41 PM

Just a crazy what if

What if US had been wanting to go into Mexico and basically annex it.

What if the US had been supporting the drug cartel without them knowing, to create the ensuing chaos that would justify sending military forces into Mexico.

I've asked this many times since the drug cartel violence sprung up in the news.

CCIP 10-02-11 08:00 PM

Frankly that'd only make sense if there were any reason the US wanted Mexico. And all things considered, the US does NOT want Mexico, you can trust me on that. Why get rid of one of the biggest sources of cheap abuse-able labour by granting them the same rights as US citizens? Why flood your country with MORE hispanic population that'd immediately demand a more left-leaning order of things?

In general, there's no point for the US to 'annex' any place in the Americas. They have other ways of influencing them, and these ways have certainly proven effective over and over.

Gerald 10-03-11 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1759747)
Frankly that'd only make sense if there were any reason the US wanted Mexico. And all things considered, the US does NOT want Mexico, you can trust me on that. Why get rid of one of the biggest sources of cheap abuse-able labour by granting them the same rights as US citizens? Why flood your country with MORE hispanic population that'd immediately demand a more left-leaning order of things?

In general, there's no point for the US to 'annex' any place in the Americas. They have other ways of influencing them, and these ways have certainly proven effective over and over.

Good point! :yep:

soopaman2 10-03-11 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1759726)
I agree, spending billions on putting pot smokers behind bars, money could be much better spent. I haven't smoked it in 20 years, but I see no problem with it. They should legalize it and tax it. Course it wouldn't be long before some corporation put all the small pot farmers out of business.

I sound like a "smoky car" hippy with my post. I can't smoke it because I operate heavy machinery and am tested, but see vastly more social problems with alcohol than with marijuana.

Of course legalizing pot would do little, as cartels only derive 15% (according to what I read) from marijuana, and any pot smoking American knows Canada grows better green anyways. Seedless and not packed into a compressed brick.

Look at the politics behind the movie "reefer madness". It was a propaganda film back in the days to put hemp farmers out of business. Du Pont wanted to kill hemp and succeeded, resulting in our current drug laws. One of Americas earliest examples of why "lobbying" is bad.

Can't lobby in Europe, they call it bribery, which it is.

August 10-03-11 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Castout (Post 1759744)
Just a crazy what if

What if US had been wanting to go into Mexico and basically annex it.

There would be a lot better ways of going about it than what you're suggesting. It'd be far easier and cheaper for us to just close the border.

soopaman2 10-03-11 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1760043)
There would be a lot better ways of going about it than what you're suggesting. It'd be far easier and cheaper for us to just close the border.

Agreed.:salute:

If we wanted to we can use the same thinly veiled casus belli to declare Mexico a renegade we did for Iraq part II. Then If the UN objected we would tell them to "go kick rocks" like we did for the same above mentioned war. They won't do anything, The USA feed 75% of money and materiel as well as manpower.

And the above paragraph is not praise. I don't like us using our military like so. It reeks of colonialism, something that Americas hatred for made us a country. (Sorry Britain, we still love you)

Ducimus 10-03-11 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1759124)
Mexico lost around half its territory to the US after a war in the 1840s, and has since been very protective of its sovereignty.

They've been doing a bang up job taking that territory back without firing a shot too.


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