Mind=blown

:har::har::har::har::har::har::har:

Blimey even Sailor Steve earns the wrath of aw.

So to maths geography history economics and politics can we now add english?:hmmm:

@ Sailor Steve:
It's apparently a sign of being tough or G-Money or other street cred nonsense that goes on.

@Anthony:
I also have heard it did originate in prison. The implication was something to the effect of liking other men in a intimate way shall we say. :hmmm:


I don't think Steve was pissing off anyone. :03:

Not really AVG if you go for the original it meant whore and if you go for the original American use it meant rotten timber.
Now a couple of hudred years later it got some new meanings, but the word certainly didn't originate in prisons

I was not talking about the word I was talking about the pants dropped in the back thus showing the Hanes underwear and or bum. I have heard wearing pants in this fashion originated in prison.

When you're in a holding cell, the police take your belt and shoelaces off of you. Hence, baggy :)

Excellent point sir!

So we can call you "gangsta sledge" from now on?

Whatever suits your fancy, I prefer "the fixer" :D

Only in recent slang. Originally it was a prostitute, going all the way back to shakespeare, but the earliest 20th-century reference was to a prison "bride", which is why I used it in that context.

As for ticking people off, I wouldn't have to go out of my way, as you seem to be extremely thin-skinned.

Some people are always ready to accept explanations they like for things they don't.

Too true!

To the extent that is popular on the streets I don't think so.I have an uncle that was a prison guard in the 70s to mid 80s and he said that he never saw any inmates have their pants saggy to any where near that extreme(also this was a violation of the dress code anyway).I also work with a guy that served 10 years in Alaska State prison for murder(the victim had raped the guys sister and he beat the guy to death on the street) he was in during the 1990s and he also says that he knew no inmates that wore saggy pants.Also most prisons have strict dress codes and wearing pants saggy is a violation.I think it came from street gang members sometime in the late 80s or early 90s and got spread by 90s "gangsta" rappers (even though most of these guys are really upper middle class) and from designers who make clothes in the "urban" style.I bet they make a lot of money as well seeing as baggy pants wearers also need super long t-shirts to complete the "look".

Most people in jail/prison wear slide style sandals with socks all the time and many people on the street wear slide style sandals with socks but no one says that comes form prison though I would find that claim to be much more plausible.Of course as Salior Steve said "Some people are always ready to accept explanations they like for things they don't."

I have nothing BUT ill fitting jeans...

Because every time I get a new pair, I shrink :/

And I have no idea how to shrink denim...