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Harbinger1

04-04-12 12:23 AM

Oh I forgot

I have already learned how to use RAOBF and I agree that it is faster but I want to make up my own mind as to which method is best for me.
Next is tackling the AOB dia.

joegrundman

04-04-12 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Harbinger1 (Post 1865073)

I`m playing these games to keep my mind active for example DCS A 10 Warthog with a manual of 700 pages which I read and learned the essentials. For me it`s the journey of learning more than getting the nomenclature correct. I did not choose the name "slide ruler," I only used the name the creator used to identify the MOD..take it up with Stoianm. I do know what a slide rule but correcting someone who worked so hard on giving us some great mods would be petty. You can check his tutorial which is located in an earlier post in this thread.

sorry, i meant to address my post to Stoianm. Just so you know, I'm the guy who made the original RAOBF for SH3.

It's great that you are going to the trouble of learning to play the hard way :salute:

stoianm

04-04-12 08:13 AM

hi mate... is a chart indeed but i learned that methode and i took the chart from a manual made by Hitman if i am not mistaken... this is a method called AOB aproches zero and i understood is more acurate than the methode used from real RAOFB....in that manual is named AOB slide ruller so i keept the same name... the name not bother me just i found the method very interesting

here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...69&postcount=1

u have the methode detalied and as i say there:

''Note: all that i have writted here it is not my original ideea. I readed from all of these things on the internet and books and i puted all togheter in 1 pack.''

have a nice day

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Originally Posted by joegrundman (Post 1865058)

hi,

i don't understand what is happening here actually.

first i'd like to say that the new chart isn't actually a slide rule, since nothing actually slides. A slide ruler has a physically moving component. This is a chart.

On the other hand, the RAOBF is a slide ruler, since the middle wheel does slide.

But secondly I don't really understand why you are going to the trouble of measuring the aspect ratio of the target as shown in the recognition manual, and then comparing it with the measured aspect ratio as soon through the periscope.

This is the exact calculation that the RAOBF was designed to do in just a few seconds in the first place. Why not just use the RAOBF to do the whole operation as it has always been?

Or am I missing something?

joegrundman

04-04-12 02:13 PM

Hi stoianm,

i'm pretty sure that mathematically, the method of comparing aspect ratios is identical to what happens in the RAOBF tool. I.e the RAOBF is also comparing aspect ratios.

The aspect ratio steps are as follows:

reference aspect ratio = length/height as shown in recog manual
visual aspect = length/height as shown in scope view

visual aspect/reference aspect * 100 = aob

the raobf procedure is as follows:

match reference length to range (range is already a function of reference and visual mast height)
observe aob next to visual length

the same components in the equation are there in both procedures, just in a different order :DL

Bon chance!

joe

giosam

09-22-13 06:02 AM

Hi guys and sorry for my English
Here is my Mods list.

Accurate German Flags
DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod
DynEnv v2.9 - 3.b Enhanced Visibility (high)
DynEnv v2.9 - 5.d Ambient Setting – Brighter Nights
DynEnv v2.9 - 12 Sounds
DynEnv v2.9 - No Underwater Impurity Patch
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1 (available by date) V9 by sober
FX_Update_0_0_22_ByTheDarkWraith
FX_Update_0_0_22_Torpedoes (modified for torpedoes failure patches)
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_7_4_2_Real_Navigation
Manos Scopes-patch for 16x9
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith_Patch_1
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2 - no hyd on surface - NewUIs-IRAI compatible
Reworked Morale and Abilities v.1.1
Speech fixes and additions (english version)
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
Trevally Harbour & Kiel Canal Pilot v3.1
EQuaTool 01.01 by AvM - Large Style
AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm
Critical hits 1.1 Torpedos
Kriegsmarine Grid Map for MO and TWD UIs by stoianm

And TDW_GenericPatcher_v_1_0_149_0
But I open the game and AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm and the Kriegsmarine Grid Map for MO and TWD UIs by stoianm
do not work. What I am doing wrong?
I change the order of Mods sometimes, and I don't know if I must start a new campaing or I can continue from the port.
Thanks a lot all the modders for their great job and Stoianm for the tutorials.

gap	09-22-13 06:46 AM

Hi giosam and welcome aboard :salute:

- the AoB/Aspect Ratio chart (i.e. stoainm's "AOB slide ruller"), has been reworked graphically and included in Sjizzle's Charts mod (part I):

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3...spectratio.jpg

- ditto for the Kriegsmarine grid map with convoys and Allied air coverage:

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/...nm/SH3_MAP.jpg

Both charts available by clicking on the charts button of New UIs. Also note that a while back Illyustrator has released his Marine Quadrat Karte Mod, which plots Kriegsmarine grids directly on the navigation map:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/pict...pictureid=6314

Both mods fully compatible with New UI's 7.4.2 :up:

giosam

09-22-13 07:31 AM

Thank you very much Gap for your help :D.

One last question because I am new to the game. Trying to solve the problem I disable all the mods and enable again. I must start new campaign or can I continue from the port? It is not important because I have done only the first mission of Total Germany (sink 50000 tons in British coastal waters).

Thank you again!:salute:

gap	09-22-13 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by giosam (Post 2117800)

If you have re-enabled exactly the same mods and in the same order, there shouldn't be problems in continuing your old campaign. Switching mod order or adding/removing mods, might cause problems when mods which affect the campaign are involved. Graphical mods (and few others) can be added/removed or shuffled, without any adverse effect on campaign.

If you want my personal opinion, I would restart the campaign from 0, adding at least Open Horizons II to your mod list :03:

giosam

09-22-13 10:08 AM

Thank you again Gap for your valued advice :).

gap	09-22-13 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giosam (Post 2117852)

Thank you again Gap for your valued advice :).

My pleasure matey :)

Aktungbby

09-22-13 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap (Post 2117858)

My pleasure matey :)

As they say on the London Metros, "Mind the Gap!":arrgh!:

gap	09-22-13 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2118026)

As they say on the London Metros, "Mind the Gap!":arrgh!:

yep, it is likely that my nickname is quite inflactioned in London, especially on the Metro :O:

Ser-De

02-01-15 07:30 AM

Question

Hallo guys,

I have one question about this table,I do not have it in the game after installing the module AOB slide ruller for TDW UIs and MO by stoianm.
I have
NewUIs_TDC_7_5_0_ByTheDarkWraith , and
NewUIs_TDC_6_4_0_Real_Navigation installed.

I need something more???

The Best Regards.Hej.

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