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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 1612550)

"I'm sick and tired if your ism-schism games, die and go to heaven in Jesus' name....." :arrgh!:

"You can fool some people some time, but you can't fool all the people all the time..." :03:

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Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 1612770)

What's with this "you're against them or you're with them" logic? What's the alternative, then?

As I see it, this is advocacy for one of two things:
1) Isolating self from large part of the outside world and arming self to teeth, preparing for 'inevitable' conflict.
2) Action - we have a 'final solution' of sorts against Islam.

Again, are those two really even options? This is exactly the cause of the "our sonofabitch" doctrine that, in many ways, has brought us here. I don't care what name or cause you use to justify it, if you prop up unjust and undemocratic regimes, people will eventually rise up and you'll get burned as a result.

I'm not saying that some of the current support and enthusiasm isn't misguided - of course it is! Of course it's not all pretty flowers and democracy and world peace! As with any and every revolution, there will be an ugly morning after and possibly uglier swing back to the other extreme.

On the other hand what do you want? Again, where does your logic lead? I'm only seeing the above-listed options 1) and 2), and that doesn't tell me a whole lot of good about where you stand. If you genuinely believe in those, then hey, you probably deserve whatever Sharia says should happen to you.

How did you ever came to that conclusions i have really no idea.
Who is talking about final solution?
Do Israeli want to isolate them selves from rest of the world?
No we don't-quite opposite.
Should we do everything just to please international community when it violates our own interest?
Is International Community working for its interests or Israeli interests?

We don't mind to be isolated from Arabs as long as we don't need to fight them.
To achieve this we need to be armed so that fighting us would not be valable option.
From my point of view Arabs can jump from radical communism to radical Islam throu dictatorship and maybe some day ending with democracy as long as they don't fight us.
Israeli doctrine doesn't include domination of ME.
Israeli want to be simply accepted here as another nation or not being screwed with from position of power.

I hope that at list Egypt will find way toward democracy since this is a country that has cultural base for that.
Lets see what will happen.

Rockstar, you really are lost, your arguement makes no sense whatsoever.

If the Saudi regime falls then Saudi becomes a country with sharia law run by religious zealots.....have you visited the planet earth as Saudi is a country run by religious zealots and has sharia law?

Hey come to think of it Libya has sharia too as does Egypt as does Bahrain...better watch out or the dominoes will fall and those countries will end up with ...errr.....something they already have:doh:

Yes but Saudi fears the other zealots trying to take over you nut. Why do you think we were allowed to use their land for bases in Iran war? You really believe it was for oil or WMD? We were involved in a religious/sunni-shia tribal war on their behalf IMO. As it is we get a certain amount of support from them oil, airbases, staging areas, etc, etc. Same with Bahrain and believe it or not even Libya in that it hasn't been overtly hostile. If these kingdoms fall to the protesters you support, we loose, Israel becomes even more isolated.

So I just wanted to pass on my sincerest thanks to you on their behalf for supporting your so called freedom fighters.

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That amazingly makes even less sense than your post that made no sense.
Rockstar you truly have lost the plot.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1613070)

That amazingly makes even less sense than your post that made no sense.
Rockstar you truly have lost the plot.

+1 Sad really.:nope:

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Originally Posted by MH (Post 1612841)

Should we do everything just to please international community when it violates our own interest?

When it concerns human rights, yes.

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Israeli want to be simply accepted here as another nation or not being screwed with from position of power.

So you're a bit like the Palestinians in that regard?