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NeonSamurai 02-26-11 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by August (Post 1606955)
I didn't read what Tribesman pointed out but you bet that nobody is giving member counts, on either side.

Really it's nothing but an accounting trick played by both the counters and those being counted. No, you don't have one group of 10 people you have 10 groups of undetermined size. Sounds scarier. It helps the SPLC get funding and it makes the hate group seem far larger and therefore more relevant than they really are. Win - win.

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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1607063)
I assume everyone has seen Life of Brian...

"We're the National Patriot Militia! The only thing we hate more than minorities is the National Militia of Patriots!" (where both groups have 2 members—it was a 4 member, single group until Obama was elected, then they disagreed on whether to call the President a Muslim, or a monkey, hence the violent split).

While I do not disagree with both of you, it probably is a safe bet that the numbers are increasing if the number of groups are. Particularly if they are new chapters of an already existing group (like the KKK). Problem is no one can say by how much the numbers are increasing.

Freiwillige 02-26-11 02:32 PM

I can tell you that Neo Nazi's are a non issue, Like the lochness monster an occasional sighting but generally extinct. The groups that do exsist and protest and march are outnumbered 1,000 to 1 by protesters.
I'm just speaking about my part of the world of course but I would think it would be similar across the nation.

Its a money scam, always was always will be.

nikimcbee 02-26-11 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige (Post 1607159)
I can tell you that Neo Nazi's are a non issue, Like the lochness monster an occasional sighting but generally extinct. The groups that do exsist and protest and march are outnumbered 1,000 to 1 by protesters.
I'm just speaking about my part of the world of course but I would think it would be similar across the nation.

Its a money scam, always was always will be.

I think the Idaho ones just keep to themselves. But you are correct, the protesters will always out number them.:yawn:

tater 02-26-11 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai (Post 1607149)
While I do not disagree with both of you, it probably is a safe bet that the numbers are increasing if the number of groups are. Particularly if they are new chapters of an already existing group (like the KKK). Problem is no one can say by how much the numbers are increasing.

Not an unreasonable assumption, but the total membership numbers are not statistically significant. Nor are the number of people who support their views but are not members (unlike, say, double digit support numbers for Muslims towards terrorists).

Growler 02-26-11 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1607164)
I think the Idaho ones just keep to themselves. But you are correct, the protesters will always out number them.:yawn:

I hate Illinois Nazis.

UnderseaLcpl 02-26-11 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige (Post 1607159)
I can tell you that Neo Nazi's are a non issue, Like the lochness monster an occasional sighting but generally extinct.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...ammar-nazi.jpg

Do not be so quick to discount us. :stare:

krashkart 02-26-11 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee (Post 1607164)
I think the Idaho ones just keep to themselves. But you are correct, the protesters will always out number them.:yawn:


I haven't been back out there enough to know for sure. But I do remember when one of their compounds was bulldozed. :yeah:

Gerald 02-26-11 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler (Post 1607180)
I hate Illinois Nazis.

I also,but not Illinois!

Armistead 02-26-11 04:52 PM

One of my uncles is in the KKK here in NC, lives about 2 hours from me. I may see him once a year at a family event. Most racist man I know. He said they've tripled in members in two years. Course he says a big civil war will soon be upon us.

I don't have a problem with anti government groups, afterall, that's how this nation got founded, but racist hate groups I deplore.

yubba 02-26-11 06:34 PM

Worked with one of those kkk types, you should have seen the look on his face when I said too him, where I come from there are 2 types of people that have too wear hoods , which are crooks and cowards, which are you ?:har:

Growler 02-27-11 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 1607323)
Worked with one of those kkk types, you should have seen the look on his face when I said too him, where I come from there are 2 types of people that have too wear hoods , which are crooks and cowards, which are you ?:har:

Keep your head down, lad. Jeezus, somebody's gonna nail you to a tree for mouthing off like that.

(I gotta admire your courage!:D I would have added "people they're about to hang from the neck until dead" just for giggles.)

Sailor Steve 02-27-11 12:36 AM

My favorite neo-nazi encounter was a friendly(!) conversation with a skinhead who explained to me in great detail how and why the holocaust was a myth created by the evil lying Jews just to make Hitler look bad. Of course we've all heard the deniers tell us how it was made up, but this one kind of made my day.

Him: "The nazis didn't kill any Jews, it was all made up. The nazis would never do that."

Me: "So...what's your solution to the problem?"

Him: "Kill all the dirty lying Jews."

:doh:
:rotfl2:

Growler 02-27-11 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1607620)
Him: "The nazis didn't kill any Jews, it was all made up. The nazis would never do that."

Me: "So...what's your solution to the problem?"

Him: "Kill all the dirty lying Jews."

:doh:
:rotfl2:

You just can't make this up, folks.:rotfl2:

Stealth Hunter 02-27-11 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1607267)
One of my uncles is in the KKK here in NC, lives about 2 hours from me. I may see him once a year at a family event. Most racist man I know. He said they've tripled in members in two years. Course he says a big civil war will soon be upon us.

I don't have a problem with anti government groups, afterall, that's how this nation got founded, but racist hate groups I deplore.

[I hereby summon... STORMFRONT]

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/

:haha:

Some real characters there. What I love about all the neo-Nazi and White Nationalist organizations in the United States is that they march around with swastikas, in German paramilitary uniforms of the era, shouting in German, quoting from Mein Kampf, praising Adolf Hitler... yet... I have strong doubts that all of them (or for that matter even the majority of them) are anywhere close to being German- in either citizenship, if they be immigrants, or ethnic ancestry-- let alone speak the German language fluently.


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