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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1594315)

Me, too. Then I'd also like to know who funded it, how, and why.

That is nice to know too, but often much more difficult to find out.

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Originally Posted by DarkFish (Post 1594447)

Nope, the press are doing them no favor.

Example: Some research shows that people who eat peanuts daily are on average more healthy than people who do not. Generally some big news agency changes this into: "Eat more peanuts for your health". Next another research shows that people who eat peanuts have a higher probability to get cancer in their right thumb. And again the press distorts this into: "Peanuts cause cancer in your thumb, don't eat them!" That's all there is to it actually.
And that's why I can completely understand NeonSamurai when he says he'd rather read the study itself instead of these news stories.

Precisely... It is always better to go directly to the source (preferably in the original language) for pretty much any kind of knowledge, otherwise you cannot be sure what kind of distortion(s) is going on (but can guarantee there is one).

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Originally Posted by Rilder (Post 1594669)

Studies have shown evidence of Dihydrogen Monoxide in every single major illness patient.

OMG! :o I'm doomed.

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Originally Posted by Rilder (Post 1594669)

Studies have shown evidence of Dihydrogen Monoxide in every single major illness patient.

Yes its a nasty little chemical compound. Its destroyed our coast lines, its been used to torture people, and has been extensively used by the military; namely the Navy.

If you ask me it should be banned.

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Yeah, hard without the actual paper. Did they look at the sweetener, or just the carbonation? Could it be that people who drink regular soda get more heart disease because they get FAT? Then people who drink DIET soda get even more heart disease not because of the soda, but because those that chose diet are already so fat they decided to cut down on sugar (hence the diet drinking group is already more fat than the other)?

No way to tell without the paper, and pretty much any journalist writing about science is an idiot. There are exceptions (rare), but face it, people that go into journalism don't have the smarts for science or engineering in the first place.

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai (Post 1594922)

That is nice to know too, but often much more difficult to find out.

And yet so important. Untold thousands of good businesses and millions of people's lives have been ruined by claims that were later proven to be false; claims that were made by researchers funded by political or economic competitors or out of their own need to secure funding. If there was ever a need for full acountability and disclosure across the full spectrum of the state and private sectors, this is it.

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike (Post 1595023)

I don't care if they ban it, I've heard they can produce it artificially and put it into GPU's - so we still can play subsims...

on the other hand, a subsim which plays on the planet Dune would also be great :up:

The issue isn't the carbon-di-oxide content or the fizzyness of the drink, it's the sugar/sweetener replacement that is the focus. But yeah, without being able to read the rest of the study it won't make me think twice.

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Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl (Post 1594315)

Me, too. Then I'd also like to know who funded it, how, and why.

I wouldn't surprise me if it was the Fruit, Power drink, or Milk Industry. :haha: