I never like Reagan all that much, but in this case you have no idea what you're talking about. The "treasonous scum" in this case was the segment of Congress who abused their authority to try to sink someone they already hated, much as the Republican Congress did in the Clinton impeachment. Sure, they had some cause, but their cause was wrong and they paid for it. North like to the team sent to seek his help, but in front of the Congress he told the truth, and they set themselves up so they couldn't do anything about it once they realized their own stupidity.

In this case I lump you in the same box as Bubblehead - the box for the people who are already convinced of their own rightness and are incapable of admitting that anyone who disagrees has any value at all.

In the words of Ben Franklin, "Blame-All and Praise-All are two blockheads."

It was the east german communications system and ancient technology that was the problem, it took two years for them to hear the gipper telling them to take down the wall, once they got the word which had been lost in the post they jumped up and took down the wall at his request.

It has been suggested that a quicker result would have been achieved if he had climbed a ladder in Berlin and shouted really load over the wall, but there were issues over having to use a stunt double to do the climbing.

Was the operation explicitly against the laws of the United States?
Did it involve aiding enemies of the United States?

Did the operation happen the way the liberal sources claim it did? Is there any actual proof? Have you seen it?

Liberal sources???????
I see you are focusing on congress, it goes way beyond that.

Ronald Reagen will never be somebody i will like as a president. He watched over the the dismantlement of my states production centers and allowed them to go all to mexico, for short term profits.

to be honest, I don't have any love for the man. he rang in the age where government panders to big business.

Free market, tear down that fence.:up:

Then you're both wrong. Gorbachev did NOT tear down the Berlin wall. He didn't even order it torn down.

tearing down the wall = short form for allowing the events to happen that led to the fall of the wall, having the political will and power to keep the armed forces, internal & external opposition under control and to influence other Eastern Bloc contries.
Just imagine how easily a Budapest '56 or Prague '68 situation could have happened, when Hungary opened its' borders, if the soviet leader had the will to crush signs of liberty.

Not the same thing in my book.

So what do you understand under "tearing down the wall"? Certainly not only the actual process of wall demolition. I'm sure, Ronnie also didn't mean it literally and didn't want Gorby to take a pickaxe ;)

Ron and Nancy lived by their astrologer’s advice and decision making was often the result of the daily reading, that should scare the hell out of anyone.

He also believed trees caused more pollution than cars.


But overall he did a good job, just shows it doesn't take much of a brain to do better than congress.

I guess I should specify then. Neither Gorbachev or Reagan tore down the Berlin wall or caused the wall to be torn down. Neither one gets the credit for that in my book.

I have no recall of the events related to who you are talking about or when they happened.

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